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Subject: Re: Firewall and network security training.
From: Mark Teicher <mht @ clark . net>
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 19:38:02 -0500 (EST)
To: "Daniel \"Cheez\" Brown" <cheez @ cheez . lowprofile . net>
Cc: firewalls @ GreatCircle . COM
In-reply-to: <Pine . LNX . 3 . 95 . 980223094944 . 9795B-100000 @ cheez . lowprofile . net>

TO add to that point, we also need to certify the teachers to ensure
material they are presenting are in fact their own work, and not the work
of someone elses.


/mht

On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Daniel "Cheez" Brown wrote:

> Did your steam-powered difference engine run VMS? Mine did. *ugh*
> 
> ;-)
> 
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> 
> On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Ken Williams wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 22 Feb 1998, Anton J Aylward wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > ---[snip]---
> > 
> > >Back in the days I was still hacking V7 kernels, I 
> > 
> > that was right after i got my first computer...a steam-powered
> > Difference Engine with a coal-fired boiler.
> > 
> > ---[snip]---
> > 
> > >Aesthetically, I find 'salvation thru suffering' a
> > >philosophically unsound precept, along with 'baptism
> > >by fire'.  However, my observation is that these are
> > >certainly ways of accelerating th learning process,
> > >so long as you are willing to tolerate the attrition 
> > >rate.   Could we produce larger numbers slower?
> > >I don't know.  
> > 
> > i have to disagree.  all the liberal arts degrees floating around are bad 
> > enough.  no need to make CS degrees just as easy to get.  we need quality,
> > not numbers.
> > 
> > >/anton
> > >
> > >
> > >## Reply End ##
> > >
> > 
> > Ken Williams
> > 
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