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Subject: Re: Re[2]: Use the CISSP, Luke (was Re: Certifiying Security Aud
From: Bennett Todd <bet @ rahul . net>
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 07:14:01 -0800
To: dennis_keller @ smtp . ddc . dla . mil
Cc: proberts @ clark . net, anton @ the-wire . com, jeromie @ garrison . com, mht @ clark . net, firewalls @ GreatCircle . COM
In-reply-to: <9802248883 . AA888342044 @ smtp . ddc . dla . mil>; from dennis_keller @ smtp . ddc . dla . mil on Mon, Feb 23, 1998 at 09:37:03AM -0800
References: <9802248883 . AA888342044 @ smtp . ddc . dla . mil>

1998-02-23-17:37:03 Dennis Keller:
>      [...] Point 2 hits it right on the head, *maintaining* and
>      *continuing*. How many people are willing to do this? And how
>      many organizations can afford it?

That is indeed a critical part of the whole picture.

The question is, how _useful_ are these courses?

Unless they are far more useful than the same length of time spent
working and reading and learning on your own, people are only going to
be willing to do it if they _aren't_ working and learning on their own.
Organizations can afford it; courses are cheap. Very few courses cost as
much as the downtime costs to the organization, and many organizations
can afford that.

But where do we find a course or conference that is far more useful than
the same time spent working and learning? They're few and far between.
The Usenix Security Symposium qualifies. It is packed with tutorials,
referreed technical papers covering cutting-edge research work, invited
talks covering research and practical experience, BOFs where people get
together and discuss what's happening today, and so on.

Anybody want to name some others?

-Bennett


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