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Subject: [OFF TOPIC] Please stop conplainning about the spam
From: pboyer @ cpr . fr (Paul BOYER)
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 18:35:31 +0100
To: Josh Cohen <joshco @ microsoft . com>
Cc: firewalls @ GreatCircle . COM

I know I am doing the opposite of what I say. My apologies for this
contradiction.

I received more than 100 "how to stop the spam" msg for less than 10 genuine
spam msg.
"anti-spamming" opinions are worse than spam, particularly in this list.

The list is "open" to all, and not only to subscribers. This is a policy choice
that has already be discussed plenty of times, it needs not to be discussed on
the list.

OPEN list contains usually more garbage and also more usefull information.

While CLOSED (only open to subscribers) lists contain less usefull information
and less garbage. Nevertheless, think about it : this present message is also
garbage, even if it comes from a subscriber...

I would not subscribe to a list with 100% guaranted not garbage that gives no
usefull information. This is why they have less subscribers, and advertising on
it is less attractive to spammers... >loop detected.

The only well known solution is an open list with excellent, fast, accurate,
always responsive and highly skilled moderation, which is the case for very few
of them for obvious reasons. Bugtraq is probably the better example.
Those skills are not easy to find. Don't complain for not having them for free !
If you really need that kind of service, just pay someone to do the filtering
for you, I'm quite sure you will be much more tolerant with small inconvenience
such as some easy to discard spamming.

Paul Boyer

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