From list-managers-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jan 8 16:42:10 2004 Received: from web60203.mail.yahoo.com (web60203.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.118.98]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D47C2523EE for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 16:42:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20040109004204.29308.qmail@web60203.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [81.129.120.65] by web60203.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 00:42:04 GMT Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 00:42:04 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Lee?= Subject: how to associate a group with a list? To: list-managers@greatcircle.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archive-Number: 200401/1 X-Sequence-Number: 1740 hello, I administer a majordomo list and would like to make a 2-way or at least 1-way association between it and a yahoo group. Basically, to enable posts entered on one to be visible on the other. I've tried various ideas to make it work, with no success. My main failed attempt at a 1-way link involved treating the group as a member of the list (if you get what I mean) hoping that the list messages would therefore drop into the group. No, didn't work. No messages. So, any help or ideas would be great! thanks a lot, lee ________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html From list-managers-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jan 8 17:53:30 2004 Received: from a34-mta01.direcway.com (a34-mta01.direcpc.com [66.82.4.90]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C4B651260 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 17:53:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc14678 (dpc6682116021.direcpc.com [66.82.116.21]) by a34-mta01.direcway.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.12 (built Feb 13 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HR700JFH98X1Y@a34-mta01.direcway.com> for list-managers@greatcircle.com; Thu, 08 Jan 2004 20:53:27 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 17:52:25 -0800 From: Jim Poston Subject: Re: how to associate a group with a list? In-reply-to: <20040109004204.29308.qmail@web60203.mail.yahoo.com> To: list-managers@greatcircle.com Cc: Lee Reply-To: poston@ml1.net Message-id: <3FFD98D9.6605.1071B95C@localhost> Organization: The Information Dirt Road MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.12a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-Archive-Number: 200401/2 X-Sequence-Number: 1741 On 9 Jan 2004 at 0:42, Lee wrote: > I administer a majordomo list and would like to make a 2-way or at > least 1-way association between it and a yahoo group. Yahoo! Groups used to have a "remote group" feature, where Y!G would act as an archive of a list hosted on another server, as well as provide the other web-based features of Y!G. Unfortunately, they did away with that feature about a year ago. I seem to remember trying to bounce a message to a Yahoo! Group, but there was a header that caused trouble. Y!G basically would not accept any direct forwards from another list. I guess it was their loop- prevention mechanism. A cut-and-paste would work of course. I think your best bet will be to automate the forwarding process on your end. As you've seen, manual forwards work. -- Jim poston@ml1.net << Tennis is irrelevant. -Bjorn Borg- >> From list-managers-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Jan 16 16:40:31 2004 Received: from web60210.mail.yahoo.com (web60210.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.118.105]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 11CAF52AB0 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 16:40:28 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20040117004027.14387.qmail@web60210.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [81.128.15.119] by web60210.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 17 Jan 2004 00:40:27 GMT Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 00:40:27 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Lee?= Subject: Associating a group with a list To: list-managers@greatcircle.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archive-Number: 200401/3 X-Sequence-Number: 1742 hello everyone, thanks for your various suggestions on this a week or so ago; fairly predictably, I haven't succeeded, probably due to the mail loop inhibits and such like which one or two of you mentioned. So, I'm now looking to do it properly and actually get hosting on a server, where I can set up a cgi script to generate a forum/list concept. I've been looking into and testing 'Mailgust' so far, which looks like a pretty innovative forum AND mailing list manager. I don't know why there seem so few of these - any idea? This is the only one I've come across. My current webserver (freeservers.com, which is not where my majordomo is currently hosted) don't allow the cron and shell access, so I've heard about one or two other providers who do. For a price, of course. I don't want to check if my current majordomo hosting server (which is doing majordomo for free for us) can offer the necessary access, even though they probably could, because I want to have control of it myself. lee ________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html From list-managers-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Jan 16 17:59:58 2004 Received: from ns.lofcom.com (unknown [69.93.98.146]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18B3853B15 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 17:59:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.123.10] (washdc3-ar10-4-41-046-081.washdc3.dsl-verizon.net [4.41.46.81]) by ns.lofcom.com (8.12.10/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i0H1xl91031968; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 20:59:55 -0500 -Envelope-From: charlie@lofcom.com X-Sender: adminmail@oldradio.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20040117004027.14387.qmail@web60210.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 21:00:01 -0500 To: Lee , list-managers@greatcircle.com From: Charlie Summers Subject: Re: Associating a group with a list X-Archive-Number: 200401/4 X-Sequence-Number: 1743 At 7:40 PM -0500 1/16/04, Lee is rumored to have typed: > thanks for your various suggestions on this a week or > so ago; fairly predictably, I haven't succeeded, > probably due to the mail loop inhibits and such like > which one or two of you mentioned. Perhaps you'd have better luck if you posted this to the appropriate list; Great Circle does host majordomo-specific lists, which this is NOT. This list (list-managers) is for non-platform-specific issues dealing with operating mailing list servers and mailing lists. Many of us here do NOT use majordomo, nor do we have any interest whatsoever in Yahoo. Please see: http://www.greatcircle.com/ ...for detailed information on the various lists kindly served by Great Circle, and their specific functions. Charlie From list-managers-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Jan 16 19:06:23 2004 Received: from web60210.mail.yahoo.com (web60210.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.118.105]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id E04A854287 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 19:06:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20040117030614.38587.qmail@web60210.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [81.129.72.93] by web60210.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 17 Jan 2004 03:06:14 GMT Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 03:06:14 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Lee?= Subject: Re: Associating a group with a list To: list-managers@greatcircle.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archive-Number: 200401/5 X-Sequence-Number: 1744 hello Charlie, Yes, I was and am fully aware of the nature of the list-managers group. The whole purpose of posting to it was to get some tips or advice on mailing list management from a non-majordomo perspective. I am already on the majordomo-users list as well. Lee --- Charlie Summers wrote: > At 7:40 PM -0500 1/16/04, Lee is rumored to have > typed: > > > thanks for your various suggestions on this a week > or > > so ago; fairly predictably, I haven't succeeded, > > probably due to the mail loop inhibits and such > like > > which one or two of you mentioned. > > Perhaps you'd have better luck if you posted this > to the appropriate list; > Great Circle does host majordomo-specific lists, > which this is NOT. This list > (list-managers) is for non-platform-specific issues > dealing with operating > mailing list servers and mailing lists. Many of us > here do NOT use majordomo, > nor do we have any interest whatsoever in Yahoo. > > Please see: > > http://www.greatcircle.com/ > > ...for detailed information on the various lists > kindly served by Great > Circle, and their specific functions. > > Charlie > > ________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! 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From list-managers-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Jan 30 04:23:04 2004 Received: from b1.iprcom.com (blade023.dedicated.netrino.co.uk [217.204.9.216]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7372D5C6FF for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 03:55:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from iprcom.com (b1.iprcom.com [127.0.0.1]) by b1.iprcom.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id i0UBtB4E022773 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 11:55:11 GMT Received: from 195.224.105.243 (SquirrelMail authenticated user ian) by iprcom.com with HTTP; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 11:55:11 -0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <60949.195.224.105.243.1075463711.squirrel@iprcom.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 11:55:11 -0000 (GMT) Subject: Freeserve blocking some subject lines? From: "Ian Rogers" To: list-managers@greatcircle.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Archive-Number: 200401/7 X-Sequence-Number: 1746 I've just had one of my customers complain that my service wasn't forwarding his emails properly. After some investigation is seems that freeserve.co.uk are blocking all messages with the subject "test" (presumably to stop the latest virus)! Can anybody else confirm this? Do you think this is an appropriate way for a *major* ISP to combat a virus (you might note a hint of sarcasm in my question there ;-) What next, block messages with the subject "hi"??? Ian From list-managers-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Jan 30 08:50:03 2004 Received: from mail3.panix.com (mail3.panix.com [166.84.1.74]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF3F35CCF4 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 07:07:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailspool2.panix.com (mailspool2.panix.com [166.84.1.79]) by mail3.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3C929836C for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 10:07:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from panix.com (cpe-66-87-152-33.il.sprintbbd.net [66.87.152.33]) by mailspool2.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E557AE1C07 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 10:07:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <401A7322.8080401@panix.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 09:07:14 -0600 From: "David W. Tamkin" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: list-managers@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Freeserve blocking some subject lines? References: <60949.195.224.105.243.1075463711.squirrel@iprcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200401/8 X-Sequence-Number: 1747 > Do you think this is an appropriate way for a *major* ISP to combat a > virus (you might note a hint of sarcasm in my question there ;-) What > next, block messages with the subject "hi"??? Another UK ISP -- supranet or something -- blocked my message to one of its customers because the subject included the horrifying word "free" and ergo had to be spam, case closed, and the firm's duty to serve mandated protecting her from my evil email. She and I were discussing the band named Free, and apparently this brilliant anti-spam measure had just been instituted, because my earlier messages to her had gone through without impediment. I changed the subject line, remailed it, and suggested she take her business to a less paternalistic provider. In some circles, "test" and "free" are four-letter words. From list-managers-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Jan 30 12:34:58 2004 Received: from web60206.mail.yahoo.com (web60206.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.118.101]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 06D5F55AEA for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 12:34:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20040130203449.77509.qmail@web60206.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [81.128.111.114] by web60206.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 20:34:49 GMT Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 20:34:49 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Lee?= Subject: Re: Freeserve blocking some subject lines? To: Ian Rogers Cc: managers In-Reply-To: <60949.195.224.105.243.1075463711.squirrel@iprcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archive-Number: 200401/9 X-Sequence-Number: 1748 hello, it is clutching at straws a bit, isn't it? Your message is very useful to me though - I'm currently testing a new system where subscribers will get [test] in the subject line! one person has already told me they're not succeeding with it, so I'll check their circumstances and probably use a different prefix in my system! thanks a lot, lee --- Ian Rogers wrote: > > I've just had one of my customers complain that my > service wasn't > forwarding his emails properly. After some > investigation is seems that > freeserve.co.uk are blocking all messages with the > subject "test" > (presumably to stop the latest virus)! > > Can anybody else confirm this? > > Do you think this is an appropriate way for a > *major* ISP to combat a > virus (you might note a hint of sarcasm in my > question there ;-) What > next, block messages with the subject "hi"??? > > Ian ___________________________________________________________ BT Yahoo! Broadband - Free modem offer, sign up online today and save £80 http://btyahoo.yahoo.co.uk