From list-managers-owner@greatcircle.com Sun Apr 25 08:34:16 2004 Received: from bolt.sonic.net (bolt.sonic.net [208.201.242.18]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99B6C32FA2E for ; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 08:32:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from satellite.vo.cnchost.com (IDENT:root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bolt.sonic.net (8.12.10/8.12.1) with ESMTP id i3PFWFrB000797 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 08:32:15 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.0.10.0.20040425082335.055087c8@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: inet-list%vo.cnchost.com@127.0.0.1 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.10 (Beta) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 08:28:11 -0700 To: List Managers From: JC Dill Subject: Software to do Merged announcement mailing lists Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Archive-Number: 200404/1 X-Sequence-Number: 1770 My company is having a pretty high opt-in rate - when people sign up for our services about 40% are selecting to receive our newsletter. We aren't currently capitalizing on this audience, we need to start sending out a newsletter. The marketing department wants to send a personalized newsletter. So we need software that will do a mail merge, preferably something that we can integrate with our application which is written in Java and uses Velocity templates. Any suggestions? jc From list-managers-owner@greatcircle.com Sun Apr 25 22:32:01 2004 Received: from www-s34d2.ununetworks.com (www-s34d2.ununetworks.com [66.36.228.29]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24E9F32CB65 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 2004 22:31:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host217-43-67-125.range217-43.btcentralplus.com ([217.43.67.125] helo=talk21.com) by www-s34d2.ununetworks.com with asmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1BHyif-000CUy-Qz for list-managers@greatcircle.com; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 01:31:53 -0400 Message-ID: <408C9EDC.5090409@talk21.com> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 06:32:12 +0100 From: lee User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.5 (Windows/20040207) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: list-managers@greatcircle.com Subject: Re: Newsletter application Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - www-s34d2.ununetworks.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - greatcircle.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [26 6] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - talk21.com X-Archive-Number: 200404/2 X-Sequence-Number: 1771 hello JC, The Mailgust software I use is written in php, but it is a powerful mailing and newsletter tool. I don't know if that would be of any use to you. http:mailgust.org lee From list-managers-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Apr 29 10:38:14 2004 Received: from gadolinium.btinternet.com (gadolinium.btinternet.com [194.73.73.111]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C69032CD18; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 10:35:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [217.43.67.113] (helo=talk21.com) by gadolinium.btinternet.com with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #25) id 1BJFRL-0004bU-00; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 18:35:15 +0100 Message-ID: <40913CD8.9040202@talk21.com> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 18:35:20 +0100 From: lee User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.5 (Windows/20040207) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Cc: list-managers@greatcircle.com Subject: a mail routing conundrum Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200404/3 X-Sequence-Number: 1772 hello everyone, with apologies for the off topic nature of this; i have a situation where one of my non-majordomo mail list managers has a problem (for the foreseeable duration) where it has to allow people to write posts in html, but the digest cannot handle such posts, resulting in a html mess. Now, I currently have access to an unused majordomo list circuit which I know has the html stripper patch successfully working on it. I would like to feed all posts sent to my other list into the majordomo one, thereby stripping the html, then 'invisibly' / 'semi-invisibly' send the resulting output to the other lists' subscribers, whether they be 'normal' or 'digest' subscribers. Do you get what I mean? So far, this appears impossible without creating a mail loop. I've tried various forwarding / subscription 'tricks' but to no avail. In case you're wondering, there are 2 or 3 reasons why I need to stay 'centrally' with the faulty list, rather than just move everything (temporarily) over to the majordomo list. Any wisdom appreciated ! (i also have access to Mailman, not that that seems to be of help in this scenario) lee From list-managers-owner@greatcircle.com Fri Apr 30 18:09:24 2004 Received: from penguin.postmodern.com (server.postmodern.com [216.240.39.3]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAA5432C4CC for ; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 18:09:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.114] (h-68-164-82-52.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net [68.164.82.52]) by penguin.postmodern.com (8.12.11/mcb2004-04-16-SBL-and-CBL) with ESMTP id i411B4bD027856; Fri, 30 Apr 2004 18:11:05 -0700 In-Reply-To: <40913CD8.9040202@talk21.com> References: <40913CD8.9040202@talk21.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v613) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <24F6866A-9B0C-11D8-BABE-000393041620@postmodern.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: lee From: "Michael C. Berch" Subject: Re: a mail routing conundrum Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 18:09:06 -0700 To: list-managers@greatcircle.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.613) X-Archive-Number: 200404/4 X-Sequence-Number: 1773 The easiest way I see to accomplish what you want is to avoid Majordomo entirely (although it would be a lot easier if you just moved the whole works to a Mj list and not worried about the issue), and just install demime as a front-end filter *before* the other list-management program. (Demime is an excellent program written by Nick Simicich, and is available at http://scifi.squawk.com/demime.html and some open-source repositories.) Using the mail alias feature of the mail server on the site that hosts the list (e.g., /etc/aliases or /etc/mail/aliases for sendmail & UNIX), make the list posting address a pipe (or equivalent mechanism) to demime, which then delivers the message to the list-management program. For a Majordomo list it's something like: mylist: "|/usr/local/majordomo/demime '|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -p bulk -M 10000 -l mylist -f mylist-owner -h myhost.com -s mylist-outgoing'" For a non-Majordomo list, it might be something like: mylist: "|/usr/local/bin/demime mylist-post" where "mylist-post" maps to the input of your list-management program for the list "mylist". -- Michael C. Berch mcb@postmodern.com / mcb@greatcircle.com On Apr 29, 2004, at 10:35 AM, lee wrote: > hello everyone, > > with apologies for the off topic nature of this; > > i have a situation where one of my non-majordomo mail list managers > has a problem (for the foreseeable duration) where it has to allow > people to write posts in html, but the digest cannot handle such > posts, resulting in a html mess. > Now, I currently have access to an unused majordomo list circuit which > I know has the html stripper patch successfully working on it. > I would like to feed all posts sent to my other list into the > majordomo one, thereby stripping the html, then 'invisibly' / > 'semi-invisibly' send the resulting output to the other lists' > subscribers, whether they be 'normal' or 'digest' subscribers. > Do you get what I mean? So far, this appears impossible without > creating a mail loop. I've tried various forwarding / subscription > 'tricks' but to no avail. > > In case you're wondering, there are 2 or 3 reasons why I need to stay > 'centrally' with the faulty list, rather than just move everything > (temporarily) over to the majordomo list. > > Any wisdom appreciated ! > > (i also have access to Mailman, not that that seems to be of help in > this scenario) > > lee >