From list-managers-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jun 2 11:30:35 2004 Received: from biglist.com (biglist.com [216.223.208.40]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 1B1CC32CC5E for ; Wed, 2 Jun 2004 11:30:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 25523 invoked by uid 601); 2 Jun 2004 18:30:20 -0000 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2004 14:30:20 -0400 From: Omar Thameen To: list-managers@GreatCircle.COM Subject: listname-help an anachronism? Message-ID: <20040602183020.GA25301@biglist.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Archive-Number: 200406/1 X-Sequence-Number: 1776 With all the viruses and spam, would the consensus be that the listname-help address is no longer useful? The same information could be provided via a URL. Omar From list-managers-owner@greatcircle.com Wed Jun 2 11:36:58 2004 Received: from shazam.wetworks.org (shazam.wetworks.org [192.160.237.254]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 5194732D630 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 2004 11:36:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 62638 invoked by uid 1000); 2 Jun 2004 18:36:41 -0000 Received: by shazam.wetworks.org (tmda-sendmail, from uid 1000); Wed, 02 Jun 2004 14:36:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2004 14:36:40 -0400 To: Omar Thameen Cc: list-managers@GreatCircle.COM Subject: Re: listname-help an anachronism? Message-ID: <20040602183640.GD74102@shazam.wetworks.org> References: <20040602183020.GA25301@biglist.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="YiJbW+tan0O55Ijl" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040602183020.GA25301@biglist.com> X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). The sender of this X-Habeas-SWE-6: email in exchange for a license for this Habeas X-Habeas-SWE-7: warrant mark warrants that this is a Habeas Compliant X-Habeas-SWE-8: Message (HCM) and not spam. Please report use of this X-Habeas-SWE-9: mark in spam to . User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i From: "Alan B. Clegg" X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.0 (Cannonade) X-TMDA-Fingerprint: lYOXPxARMmFQ0UCR743srDHGk38 X-Archive-Number: 200406/2 X-Sequence-Number: 1777 --YiJbW+tan0O55Ijl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Out of the ether, Omar Thameen spewed forth the following bitstream: > With all the viruses and spam, would the consensus be that the > listname-help address is no longer useful? The same information > could be provided via a URL. With all the viruses and spam, I'm nearly ready to state that e-mail is no longer useful. As unfortunate as it seems, between anti-spam traps and TOS traps, those stupid web based BBS things are becoming more and more useful. *SIGH* [to get back on topic, I'd say yes, -help addresses are probably of very little use] AlanC --=20 We have shared the incommunicable experience of war. We felt, we still feel, the passion of life to its top. In our youths, our hearts were touched by fire. -- Oliver Wendall Holmes --YiJbW+tan0O55Ijl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFAvh44yJP8xSfQVdsRAl3gAJ44PdnFXF35i90/RqyekZQOJaYNMACeNtjO zk2UCOWf+00smOMvPVctQvg= =fVob -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --YiJbW+tan0O55Ijl-- From list-managers-owner@greatcircle.com Sun Jun 13 13:07:24 2004 Received: from www-s34d2.ununetworks.com (www-s34d2.ununetworks.com [66.36.228.29]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3897032C4B1 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 13:07:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host81-152-152-97.range81-152.btcentralplus.com ([81.152.152.97]) by www-s34d2.ununetworks.com with asmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1BZbGA-0003jm-1E for list-managers@greatcircle.com; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 16:07:18 -0400 Message-ID: <40CCB401.3060307@btopenworld.com> Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 21:07:29 +0100 From: lee User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (Windows/20040502) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: list-managers@greatcircle.com Subject: Forcing line wrap Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - www-s34d2.ununetworks.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - greatcircle.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [26 6] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - btopenworld.com X-Archive-Number: 200406/3 X-Sequence-Number: 1778 hello everyone, Is there a way to force line wrap, say at 80 characters, on all emails presented to a mailing manager? My motivation here is to cater for : 1) Posters who cannot / don't know how to adjust their outgoing line wrap. 2) Readers, especially of digests, where their local email program settings mean that long lines are resolved, meaning you have to 'annoyingly' scroll across the screen to read. Thanks for any advice - I don't know how any ideas here would relate to both html and plain text mails. Many thanks, Lee From list-managers-owner@greatcircle.com Mon Jun 21 14:24:06 2004 Received: from mailbox.onlinepolicy.net (mailbox.onlinepolicy.net [64.62.161.194]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C69A932C226 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:24:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mailbox.onlinepolicy.net (Postfix, from userid 48) id 65FA918938D; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:04:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from inecce-pxy02.zcce.compaq.com (inecce-pxy02.zcce.compaq.com [161.114.1.182]) by mailbox.onlinepolicy.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:04:39 -0700 Message-ID: <1087851879.40d74d67314e1@mailbox.onlinepolicy.net> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:04:39 -0700 From: rogerk@queernet.org To: list-managers@greatcircle.com Subject: Suggestions for host for commercial adult material by scrupulously legit client MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.3 X-Originating-IP: 161.114.1.182 X-Archive-Number: 200406/4 X-Sequence-Number: 1779 We have a list-owner who would like to run a list supporting his for-profit adult business. My agency cannot do so due to our non-profit status. Does anyone have any suggestions as to possible hosts? He's been a totally legit list-manager, with scrupulous confirmed subscription management... From list-managers-owner@greatcircle.com Thu Jun 24 18:04:40 2004 Received: from parrot.squawk.com (parrot.squawk.com [64.244.111.110]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2BD832C57C for ; Thu, 24 Jun 2004 18:04:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [199.74.151.5] (nscifi.squawk.com [199.74.151.5]) by parrot.squawk.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A772C25B33F; Thu, 24 Jun 2004 21:04:29 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Mandrakesoft list.... From: Nick Simicich To: talk , List Managers Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1088125468.1923.31.camel@quickdraw.squawk.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 (1.4.5-7) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 21:04:29 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200406/5 X-Sequence-Number: 1780 So, I just got an e-mail from mandrake - it came from mandrakesoft, and it came to my tagged address that is only used for that mailing list. The headers seemed to indicate that it really came from there. I think that the assertion made in the headers is that it really was from a poster to the mailing list. The actual origin was a machine in Italy. I don't have another piece of mail to see if the origin actually matches the origin of the real mail in received lines, but the headers sure looked reasonable. The type is multipart/mixed. There is a plain text section which is empty, a details.doc.scr, and a plain text section called "message.footer" that actually looks like a message footer from the mandrakesoft security list. I have no idea if it was created by the mailing list software or if it was plugged in by the malware. The other content was an attachment with the name "details.doc.scr" of a type application/octet-stream. Of course, this is a virus. I doubt that ppp-62-10-51-103.dialup.tiscali.it is making these postings by hand to get around mailing list origin filters. I also suspect that the people at Mandrake are likely not running infected Windows boxes - they would be running infected Linux boxes, were there viruses handy, I guess. What is more likely is that our friends the virus writers are starting to look at the mail that they send out and maybe they are duplicating old combinations that they see in the mail files saved on disk, which will result in more of this - mailing lists which check origins and which have been virus resistant because of that will be getting hit. Makes me glad that I am running demime on all my mailing lists. It was amusing that it came on a security mailing list. They should probably make this a moderated mailing list. Of course :-), this week, anyway, I am reading this on Linux, so I am not worried about this worm-thing. But many people like Windows for console interaction. And they will be infectable. -- Blog: http://majordomo.squawk.com/njs/blog/blogger.html Atom: http://majordomo.squawk.com/njs/blog/atom.xml RSS: http://majordomo.squawk.com/njs/blog/atom.rdf From list-managers-owner@greatcircle.com Sun Jun 27 16:53:51 2004 Received: from www-s34d2.ununetworks.com (www-s34d2.ununetworks.com [66.36.228.29]) by mycroft.greatcircle.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23BEE32C46A; Sun, 27 Jun 2004 16:53:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host81-156-49-217.range81-156.btcentralplus.com ([81.156.49.217]) by www-s34d2.ununetworks.com with asmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1BejT4-000Asw-03; Sun, 27 Jun 2004 19:53:50 -0400 Message-ID: <40DF5E1B.5090004@btopenworld.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 00:54:03 +0100 From: lee User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (Windows/20040502) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: list-managers@greatcircle.com, majordomo-users@greatcircle.com Subject: (off topic) advice needed using demime for sig removal References: <40DEF843.30305@btopenworld.com> In-Reply-To: <40DEF843.30305@btopenworld.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - www-s34d2.ununetworks.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - greatcircle.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [26 6] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - btopenworld.com X-Archive-Number: 200406/6 X-Sequence-Number: 1781 > > hello everyone, > > Just wondering if you're using demime and its associated > demime_junkmail.cf file for signature removal. > If so, maybe you can help me - despite some help from Nick, Dan and > some other sources, I can't get my head round the use of regular > expressions to do what I want. Apart from general advertising sig > removal, I am specifically wanting to remove old list footers on > replies, which the poster has failed to / can't remove before sending > their reply to the list. These obviously make replies unwieldy and > messy; more so with each reply generation if the trend is continued. > > The footer in question always has the same text content and is of this > style but wider: > ______________ > There are two or > three lines here > within the lines > ______________ > > So far, I have fumbled around in demime_junkmail.cf and find I can > match and remove _exactly_ a 'new' footer like that, but not the ones > which actually need to be removed on incoming replies. I think this > is related to how and where the email quotes or includes the original > mail and its associated footer in the reply. I can appreciate that any > corruption of the original line wrap may make my task impossible, but > I am having trouble even where the original wrap appears intact. > > It'd be great if any of you can conjour up one working expression (or > more) into which I can just slot my specific text ! > > Many thanks for any help here, > lee >