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Subject: UNIX listserver
From: tower @ gnu . ai . mit . edu
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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 93 21:29:52 edt
To: Ophof @ cs . uwindsor . ca
Cc: List-Managers @ GreatCircle . COM
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In-reply-to: <930708.184659-0400@MReXX-0.18> "Ophof@cs.uwindsor.ca"
Reply-to: tower @ prep . ai . mit . edu

   Date:         Thu, 8 Jul 1993 18:46:59 -0400
   From: "F. Scott Ophof" <Ophof@cs.uwindsor.ca>
   Sender: List-Managers-Owner@greatcircle.com
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   On Thu, 8 Jul 93 16:29:54 EDT Wes Morgan said:
   >On Thu, 8 Jul 1993 07:54:59 EDT Michael H. Morse said:
   >>Scott Ophof said:
   >>> (I think) Michael H. Morse said:
   >>> >As far as fairness to the authors, I don't think the property rights
   >>> >go as far as to the name "listserver".
   >>> The name "ListServer" is in use by the MLM implemented by Tasos.
   >>> I sincerely hope you respect his use of that word.
   >>Now I'm *really* confused.  We *use* Tasos' implementation.  So, does
   >>that mean I have the right (and meet your standards of politeness) to
   >>use the name "listserver"???  If so, then I *must* use the address
   >>"listserv" as well.  You see, we have a Unix host on the BITNET, and
   >>some BITNET sites have 8-character restrictions on addresses.  Now
   >>what do you suggest?

   I think it would be fair to say that it would be nice to have the
   address reflect which MLM is addressed, except where users could get
   confused by a different behaviour than the address would imply.
   So if it's a "ListServer" running on a BITnet node, I personally
   would go for something like (maybe) "L-SERVER" to ensure users
   wouldn't expect a "Revised LISTSERV".

Being more interested in serving users, I would have all known MLM
addresses on my host pointing at whichever MLM program I was using.

Users don't like having programmers and system administrators require
them to know many many different ways of doing one thing.  And I agree
with the users.

Yes, a user who contacts an MLM he doesn't know, at the "name/address"
of one he does know will be a little confused, but at least he'll get
enough information to go forward, rather then a "User Unknown..."

thanx -len

Member, League for Programming Freedom.  Ask: lpf@uunet.uu.net 



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