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Subject: anon.penet.fi
From: Mari Sepp{ <zarr @ snakemail . hut . fi>
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 10:41:31 +0200
To: list-managers @ GreatCircle . COM

I am subscribing to this list because I admin couple of lists myself,
but actually this is a good forum for my message.

I am the other of the two administrators of anon.penet.fi. From time
to time there has been abuse on mailing lists from anon.penet.fi users
as well as extra hassle because of anon.penet.fi users.

Anon.penet.fi address is not meant to be used with mailing lists. We
have restricted mailing to listserv@* addresses at our end and try
to think of a way to handle other types of lists as well.
Anon.penet.fi is such a small machine, that high traffic lists would
kill it. Julf pays for every message that passes through the machine
from his own pocket and I volunteer my time, so both of us would
appreciate if you would do some customization, if easy, at your end
and restrict mails from anon.penet.fi. Special lists where subscribers
really would appreciate being anonymous (support, etc.) should contact
admin@anon.penet.fi for arrangements.

abuse
-----
Abuse by anon.penet.fi users should be reported immediately with the
full post including headers to abuse@anon.penet.fi. I am really sorry
for these abuses, it's a shame that a small group can ruin the name
for so many others :-(

hassle
------
Anon.penet.fi has a double blind rule. If you send mail to
anNUMBER@anon.penet.fi address, you will be anonymized as well.
Anon.penet.fi header has the From: address as anNUMBER, so
subscription to lists is anNUMBER. Any mail to the mailing list will
be send to the anon subscriber anonymized. Anyone that writes to the
list will get an anonymous account and this will cause *a lot* of
confusion. If you change the subscription from anNUMBER@anon.penet.fi
to naNUMBER@anon.penet.fi, the mail will get to the recipient
unanonymized.

This is the standard message send out to mailing lists with the above
trouble:

I received the note above even though it probably was not intended for
me. I work under names daemon@anon.penet.fi and postmaster@anon.penet.fi
among others and most likely this is why this note ended up in my mailbox.
All messages from listserver/daemon/postmaster/mailer-daemon/etc addresses
are not forwarded as those addresses are potential addresses that might
compromise anonymity of an anon.penet.fi user.

I suppose you wanted to send the message to an<NUMBER>@anon.penet.fi. This
is not possible from addresses that contain words such as listserver.

Anon.penet.fi's server is not meant for regular large volume traffic and,
unfortunately, we have had very bad experiences what listservers (especially
bitnet-servers) generally do to the headers and addresses.  Mailing lists also
sometimes create a large volume of traffic.

If you are a listserver:
- - - - - - - - - - - -
Would you mind blocking anNUMBER@anon.penet.fi requests to your server.
We have done the blocking at our end, but some anon users seem to have
faked their address and sent a message your way as you see from
below. All listserv replies will bounce to admin@anon.penet.fi and
will never reach the anon user.

If you are a mailing list:
- - - - - - - - - - - - -
If you are a large volume list, I ask you to unsubscribe the anon user
from the list as anon.penet.fi's server is not meant for regular large
volumetraffic.

I suggest all subscriptions for an<NUMBER>@anon.penet.fi will be
changed to na<NUMBER>@anon.penet.fi.

Answering directly to an<NUMBER>, will result an anon id and message
will be send anonymized to the requester.  This will also result all
the people, who send articles to the list, to have an id, which is
often unasked for...

Answering to na<NUMBER> will forward message to the anon user without
anonymization.

If you want to send mail to an an<NUMBER>@anon.penet.fi and do not
want to reveal or get an anonymous ID, you should mail you e-mail to
        na<NUMBER>@anon.penet.fi.

For example: if you want to mail a user with the anonymous ID 60 and
you want to do it in non-anonymous format (i.e. so that your real name
and address appear at the headers of the mail), then send mail to:
"na60@anon.penet.fi" and NOT "an60@anon.penet.fi".

#Example:
# To: na48@anon.penet.fi
# Subject: testing
#message body:
# blah blah

If you have any questions, just ask me. 

Sorry about the extra hassle :-/
        Zarr

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