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Subject: Re: lists
From: arielle @ taronga . com (Stephanie da Silva)
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 16:03:00 -0500 (CDT)
To: list-managers @ greatcircle . com

Sorry about the delay in commenting on this thread, but we were on vacation
last week, 3 1/2 days of it coincedentally were spent in Albuquerque.  We
briefly flirted with the idea of cruising by Slaton's house and perhaps
take a picture of it for posterity, but decided we didn't have the time
for such nonsense. :-)

Kjetil Torgrim Homme: 

> You should be aware that most mailing
> list administrators (myself included) disapprove of having their lists
> in catalogues and registers without being asked for permission first.

This is a primary consideration of mine.  I don't solicit for lists, I 
list only those that are sent to me for exactly the reason you mention.
Still, the biggest problem I have with this sort of effort is that even
though the intentions of Mr. Rider seem to be honest, he's essentially
handing these lists to the spammers on a silver platter.  It bugs me that
people like Slaton take the PAML and abuse it, and there are only 1500
lists in it.  I've estimated that there are upwards of 20,000 lists out
there, and that probably is a conservative estimate.

> Those mailing lists which are public, are generally already listed in
> Stephanie da Silva's Publicly Available Mailing Lists list, and there
> is no reason for you to duplicate her efforts, 

The existence of the PAML doesn't preclude anyone else from maintaining
their own compilation.  From first hand experience, I can believe that
the reason most people don't is the sheer amount of effort it takes
maintaining a credible document.


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