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Subject: Re: User wants to be removed from list archives
From: Bob <bobs @ apc . net>
Date: Fri, 09 Aug 1996 17:07:59 -0700
To: Steve Simmons <scs @ lokkur . dexter . mi . us>
Cc: list-managers @ GreatCircle . COM
References: <199608090154.SAA05631@dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com> <4ug1ps$jlv@lokkur.dexter.mi.us>

Steve Simmons wrote:
> 
> alancz@ix.netcom.com (Alan Czarnek) writes:
> 
> >Suppose you are particpating in a particularly profound group
> >discussion and one member takes the posts from the group, including
> >your verbatim messages, and publishes them in book form. The book
> >becomes a best seller and the person who took all your work makes
> >millions, and you get nothing.
> 
> >That might be OK with you, but if that happened to me, I would be
> >steamed.  As far as I am concerned, that would be theft, and that is
> >why we have copyright laws.
> 
> It would absolutely *be* theft.  By the Berne Convention, unless you
> explicitly renounce copyright you own the reproduction right on everything
> you write.  I don't know a mailing list which requires you to explicitly
> renounce copyright.
> 
> However, I don't think your ownership of copyright permits you to pull
> back items off the list.  You've given a copy to the group for the groups
> reading pleasure.  The copyright prevents the group from re-using the
> writing for other purposes, but the group itself can keep its copies.
> The key question w/r/t archive is `group'.  Is the group the members of
> the list at the time you sent it, or all past, present and future members
> of the list?  Until this issue goes to court it'll be an open question.
> 
> Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, ya-da, ya-da.
> --
>      Rep. Steve Largent, R-Okla. "No culture that has ever embraced
> homosexuality has ever survived."  Steve, no culture has ever survived.
> They all decline and fall.  Homosexuality somehow stays with the human
> race, though.           -- Rob Morse, San Francisco Herald-Examineri would like to unsubscribe from the list bobs@apc.net


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