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Subject: Re: FindMail.Com?
From: terryd @ fogno . corp . sgi . com (Terry Diemer, Datacomette)
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 17:16:31 -0800
To: Scott Hassan <hassan @ Vault . FindMail . COM>, kynn @ idyllmtn . com
Cc: list-managers @ GreatCircle . COM
In-reply-to: Scott Hassan <hassan@Vault.FindMail.COM> "Re: FindMail.Com?" (Dec 13, 4:22pm)
References: <199612140022.QAA17446@FindMail.COM>
Reply-to: terryd @ sgi . com

Anyone else have a problem with this???  Shouldn't the list-owner be ASKED if
they want to be included, and have the CHOICE?  Why should they have to take
2 actions to remove their list from the darn thing at all?  It shouldn't be
included unless the list owner had Specifically Requested such an action!!!

I found 2 of em on our server and gee, one was findmail.com and one was
FindMail.COM.

humbug.

-t

> Any list owner wishing that their list not be archived.  Please just
> remove our subscription from your mailing list.  On Dec 13,  4:22pm, Scott
Hassan wrote:
> Subject: Re: FindMail.Com?
> Kynn Bartlett at "Dec 12, 96 12:47:10 pm"
>
>
> > www.findmail.com offers no information on these people, besides an
> > email address to mail. Their primary DNS is provided by archive.org,
> > according to Whois. www.archive.org speaks of archiving "the web",
> > Usenet, and other "public information" but doesn't mention mailing
> > lists.
>
> We are sorry about the lack of information from our web site.  We are
> compiling a FAQ about our service.  It will be available soon.
>
> FindMail Communications is a small company designed to archive all
> *public* mailing lists for the Internet.  We will store all of the
> messages and then later allow for retrieval on a public or private
> basis.  Everyone will have 'free' access to the public archive.  This
> service will be available January 1, 1997.
>
> Any list owner wishing that their list not be archived.  Please just
> remove our subscription from your mailing list.  Also, please send a
> message to FindMail@FindMail.COM stating this fact so we don't attempt
> to automatically resubscribe later.  We will place your list on a
> 'blacklist' and remove all collected messages.  We will not touch
> those lists again.
>
> We are also planning to provide an anti-spam system.  A automatic way
> to detect when someone is sending a similar message to many public
> mailing lists.
>
> > Are these people archiving my list without my permission? Anyone
> > else gotten requests from this site, or have subscribers now?
>
> I'm sorry if we subscribed without your permission.  We will try to be
> more clear in the future about our intentions.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Scott Hassan
> FindMail Communications
>-- This is the End of excerpt from Scott Hassan



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