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Subject: Re: List politics?
From: james @ sagarmatha . com (James C. Armstrong)
Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 17:02:42 -0800 (PST)
To: jennings @ cyberca . com (Penn Jennings)
Cc: list-managers @ GreatCircle . com
In-reply-to: <1.5.4.32.19970101224314.0071467c@isis.cyberca.com> from "Penn Jennings" at Jan 1, 97 05:43:14 pm

According to unnamed sources, Penn Jennings is alleged to have written
=> I have been reading several response to "List Politics?" and it appears that
=> I'm in the minority.  I guess that I could be wrong in thinking that list
=> users that harass other list member and possibly disrupt the a list should
=> have their actions corrected.  However, before I decide that I'm wrong I
=> would like to ask a question.
=> 
=> There is almost no real community that a person can harass other people with
=> some authoritative entity taking action.  You cannot harass people at work
=> and keep your job.  You cannot harass you neighbors without suffering civil
=> and/or criminal penalties.  How long could you alienate people at a bar or
=> night club before being tossed out.  So my question is:  Why is ok to harass
=> people in mailing lists?  I am forced to conclude that one of statements
=> below must be true.
=> 
=>      1. The net some how absolves people of personal responsibility.
=>      2. The net removes normal expectations of protection and decency 
=>         from online communities?
=>      3. List managers should not police their list members or don't want to
=>         police their members.
=> 
=> 
=> As I stated above, since I'm in the minority I must consider my position
=> carefully.  I'm not saying that the other opinions are at all wrong.  I'm
=> just stating a postion.

If I remember correctly, the original complaint was not about abusive
behavior in the list, but between list subscribers in private email.
This is a very different situation.

If someone is on one of my mailing lists, harrassing other users, they
would get the axe.  The amount of warning they get depends on the 
nature of the harrassment and my mood when I find out.  Usually, it's
pretty quick.

When people are harrassing each other in email, then it isn't my
responsibility as a list manager to discipline the users in question.
I may be willing to mediate, but odds are I won't have the time.
In this case, it is the business of the respective site administrators
to discipline their users.

The original situation, if I have remembered it correctly, falls 
under the latter category.
-- 
James C. Armstrong, Jr.      | It's time to taste what you most fear
james@sagarmatha.com (home)  | Right Guard will not help you here.
                             | Brace yourself, my dear!
                             | It's a holiday in Cambodia!


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