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Subject: Re: findmail.com instructions
From: Paul Hoffman <paulh @ imc . org>
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 18:12:43 -0800
To: List-Managers @ GreatCircle . COM
In-reply-to: <3.0.32.19970102173101.006e7d14@mail.idyllmtn.com>

>Oh?  Okay, which book about running mailing lists mentions the
>archive.org proposal?  I probably haven't bought that book yet?

Nope, because (as far as I know) there are no books about running a mailing
list. There are a few chapters in the O'Reilly "Managing Internet
Information Services" book, but I have seen almost nothing else.

>Sorry, did you really mean to say that mailing lists are a new field?

No, I meant that coming up with generally accepted rules for them is. There
are no RFCs, only a small handful of Internet Drafts, no books. Even this
mailing list, which I think is the biggest one talking about how to run the
non-technical side of mailing lists, probably represents well under 10% of
mailing list managers.

>FindMail isn't doing anything
>that's in a "new field", sorry.

I disagree. They're the first one to publicly state that they're archiving
mailing lists with the intention of making the contents available in a
probably-commercial product. As you corretly pointed out earlier today,
what they're doing isn't even that much like the Web archiving services,
and any publishing that they do will certainly break new ground in
copyright and appropriate use discussions.

>You're right when you say that my opinions are as good as the next
>person's -- as long as we're talking in generalities.  When we're
>talking about _my_ lists, though, it's certain truth that my opinion
>is far more important than Joe Schmoe random person who's decided to
>set up a new company using my hard work.

Absolutely agree. And the actions you take to follow up your opinions will
be even more important, particularly to other list managers.

>What is the 'Internet Mail Consortium'?  And what is your role in
>it?

We're the trade group for the Internet mail industry, and I'm one of the
directors. You can find out more about us at <http://www.imc.org/>.

Please don't interpret anything I say as supporting what findmail is doing:
I don't and IMC doesn't. Like any other vendor, they'll generate good or
bad will based on their actions with their customers and suppliers. So far,
the reviews are pretty mixed.

--Paul Hoffman
--Internet Mail Consortium




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