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Subject: Re: List Manager Duties - Legal Advice
From: Chuq Von Rospach <chuqui @ plaidworks . com>
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 23:29:52 -0800
To: Kynn Bartlett <kynn @ idyllmtn . com>, jennings @ cyberca . com (Penn Jennings)
Cc: list-managers @ GreatCircle . COM
In-reply-to: <199701030608.WAA13852@ayla.idyllmtn.com>
References: <1.5.4.32.19970103021902.0070df8c@isis.cyberca.com> from"Penn Jennings" at Jan 2, 97 09:19:02 pm

At 10:08 PM -0800 1/2/97, Kynn Bartlett wrote:

>Just one question -- how will removing someone from a mailing list prevent
>them from killing someone?
>
>Seriously, that's not a joke.

No, but it's missing the point. Most abuse on lists falls way short of
physical violence. REmoving a user from a list removes the list from
the easy reach of that user for abuse. If he continues to abuse members
via private mail, the next step is going to his admin to get help in
making him stop.

> I really want to know why you think booting
>someone off a mailing list will prevent death.

Death is a symbol for the issues we're dealing with here, not
necessarily a hard and fast reality. You're dealing with a detail as if
it's the essential issue, when in reality, it's off in left field and
hidden in a gopher hole.



>Yes, but they're lawyers.  They think like this.

That's because tehy're trained in preventing other lawyers from
separating you from your wallet....

>I think
>your anonymous lawyer friends are full of it.

I think you'd prefer to think we're all friends here and can work
things out amicably. Unfortunately, that part of the internet died
years ago.


--
           Chuq Von Rospach (chuq@solutions.apple.com) Software Gnome
       Apple Server Marketing Webmaster <http://www.solutions.apple.com/>

 Plaidworks Consulting (chuqui@plaidworks.com) <http://www.plaidworks.com/>
   (<http://www.plaidworks.com/hockey/> +-+ The home for Hockey on the net)

I got no name or number/ I just hand out the lumber.
But if I get a chance to play/ I'm going to show 'em.
		-- Stick Boy (The Hanson Brothers, SUDDEN DEATH)





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