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Subject: Re: List Manager Duties - Legal Advice
From: Chuq Von Rospach <chuqui @ plaidworks . com>
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 10:08:01 -0800
To: Kjetil Torgrim Homme <kjetilho @ ifi . uio . no>, jennings @ cyberca . com
Cc: kynn @ idyllmtn . com, list-managers @ GreatCircle . COM
In-reply-to: <199701031358.4639.mne.ifi.uio.no@ifi.uio.no>
References: <1.5.4.32.19970103125620.0071b5a0@isis.cyberca.com>(message from Penn Jennings on Fri, 03 Jan 1997 07:56:20 -0500)

At 5:58 AM -0800 1/3/97, Kjetil Torgrim Homme wrote:

>You're assuming the threat in itself causes damage.

Threats can and DO cause damage in and of themselves. I have been, for
instance, been threatened more than once over the internet. Trust me,
even threats aren't harmless. Having someone offer to track you down
and work you over with a baseball bat, even if he's 1,500 miles away
and a dweeb, slows you down and makes you just a bit more careful about
life.

(yes, it's happened. It's public record).

It's real easy to talk theoretical and legalese, but trust me, when
you've been in these situations, it's not so easy to make broad
statements about how admins don't need to get involved.

Excuse me for being common sense here, but bluntly, if someone's
abusing me or my list members, or making threats or being offensive, I
don't want the damn idiot on my list anyway! And if he's threatening
bodily harm to someone, I don't give a damn if he's in Greenland locked
up on a reindeer farm. All you need to do is guess wrong *once* to have
to live with the results the rest of your life. Think about that one...

You have a responsibilty to provide a place where your members feel
safe congregating, or you're abusing YOUR responsibility as a host.
Plain and simple.

Jeez.


--
           Chuq Von Rospach (chuq@solutions.apple.com) Software Gnome
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I got no name or number/ I just hand out the lumber.
But if I get a chance to play/ I'm going to show 'em.
		-- Stick Boy (The Hanson Brothers, SUDDEN DEATH)





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