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Subject: Re: findmail.com
From: Bonnie Scott <bonnie @ staff . prodigy . com>
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 18:21:54 -0500 (EST)
To: milt @ iqsc . com (Milt Webb)
Cc: List-Managers @ GreatCircle . COM
In-reply-to: <Pine.SOL.3.95.970103172928.1735T-100000@walker> from "Milt Webb" at Jan 3, 97 05:33:06 pm

> On Fri, 3 Jan 1997, Bonnie Scott wrote:
> > > 
> > > At 4:46 PM -0800 1/2/97, Stan Ryckman wrote:
> > > 
> > ...snipped
> >
> > There is an essential difference.  Alta Vista is not re-publishing.  They
> > aren't making a copy available to others.  They had the right to
> > one copy, which they look at, slice, dice and shred, and their output
> > is something they have done to analyse its properties.  They are NOT
> > making copies of the works for other people.  Deja News is.  They are
> > offering someone else's works at a time and in a method that the original
> > author did not intend by making the original posting.
> 
> Just to clear this up for me a bit. I understand your comment regarding
> AltaVista slicing/dicing to create links to original content. But, they do
> have that 'Search Usenet' option and that seems to work just like
> DejaNews, with links to copied content that resides on their own servers. 
> Am I right -or wrong? 

Sorry--I forgot about AltaVista's news search.  I though we were talking about
the Web search index.  

Digital DOES provide access to a copy of the news postings, but I don't see 
any older than the second week of November. Would there be a different verdict 
against Altavista (hypothetically speaking) if

- the results of the search were displayed using a special application that 
translated the standard news spool into HTML at the time of the link

- the messages themselves were stored in a relational database and
regurgitated when needed

Just a thought.  The second would (I think) obvoiusly be copyright
infringement.  The first is not so obvious.  You're talking about a different
type of news reader, in a way.

Bonnie Scott

> Milt Webb


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