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Subject: Re: Outlook 98 beta
From: Stan Ryckman <stanr @ sunspot . tiac . net>
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:53:36 -0500
To: list-managers @ GreatCircle . COM

At 07:55 PM 1/15/98 -0500, Merrill Cook wrote:
>I just loaded the Outlook 98 beta. I noticed something that looks kinda
>odd:
>
>When I reply to a note that has a "Sender" (header) that is different
>from the "From:" header, Outlook is including BOTH the sender and the
>>From address in the reply.
>
>Don't most list management packages use "list-owner" for the Sender?
>Won't this default behavior be pretty nasty to the list-owners who will
>now get two copies of each message?
>
>Is there any way to get a loud message to Microsoft to stop doing it
>this way, or at least to make it a configurable option that is turned
>off by default (so a simple reply goes only to the "From:" field, not
>the "sender").

Well, you could always *TRY* blasting the following from RFC822 at them,
noting the capitalized NEVER in the second bullet item.  However,
Microsoft is not famous for listening, nor for obeying standards other
than its own.

(I'm not sure how you figure the two copies to list-owners, though;
the From: header is generally the poster of the message.  Are you
sure that Reply-To isn't somehow involved in what you see?)

Stan.

(RFC822 excerpt:)
     4.4.4.  AUTOMATIC USE OF FROM / SENDER / REPLY-TO

        For systems which automatically  generate  address  lists  for
        replies to messages, the following recommendations are made:

            o   The "Sender" field mailbox should be sent  notices  of
                any  problems in transport or delivery of the original
                messages.  If there is no  "Sender"  field,  then  the
                "From" field mailbox should be used.

            o   The  "Sender"  field  mailbox  should  NEVER  be  used
                automatically, in a recipient's reply message.

            o   If the "Reply-To" field exists, then the reply  should
                go to the addresses indicated in that field and not to
                the address(es) indicated in the "From" field.

            o   If there is a "From" field, but no  "Reply-To"  field,
                the  reply should be sent to the address(es) indicated
                in the "From" field.

        Sometimes, a recipient may actually wish to  communicate  with
        the  person  that  initiated  the  message  transfer.  In such
        cases, it is reasonable to use the "Sender" address.

        This recommendation is intended  only  for  automated  use  of
        originator-fields  and is not intended to suggest that replies
        may not also be sent to other recipients of messages.   It  is
        up  to  the  respective  mail-handling programs to decide what
        additional facilities will be provided.


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