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Subject: Re: findmail
From: "Tom Neff" <tneff @ panix . com>
Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 10:12:23 -0400
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In-reply-to: <199805310800.BAA09158@honor.greatcircle.com>

If I remember correctly, Findmail does not go out and actively or automatically
look for external mailing lists to archive, but they do provide a Web interface
where individual USERS can enter the name of a mailing list and ask that it be
archived.  If one of your mailing lists appears on Findmail, it's probably
because some interested subscriber put it there.

I agree that it would be much nicer if the result of a user request for an
external archive was an email sent to the owner of the list in question saying,
"User <address here> has requested that we archive your list <so and so>.  If
this is OK, please reply to this email with the word "yes" in the message body;
any other response, or no response, will result in no archiving."

Carl Page's suggestion, that concerned listowners start using X-No-Archive all
over the place, has one enormous problem, which is that LEGITIMATE archives for
your list may exist, with access rights and format of your choosing; this
"industry standard" cuts both ways.

Personally, I would watch (using Procmail) for subscribes from findmail.com, and
kick them off immediately, and then send that "listsaver-of-" address just ONE
message for its "archive" saying: THIS IS NOT THE REAL ARCHIVE. This was created
without permission.  Tell Findmail to stop operating this way."  A wave of those
ought to generate enough user feedback to get them to think about the issue. :)


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