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Subject: Putting the listname on the Subject line
From: "Bernie Cosell" <bernie @ fantasyfarm . com>
Organization: Fantasy Farm Fibers
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 10:42:23 -0500
To: list-managers @ GreatCircle . COM
Reply-to: bernie @ fantasyfarm . com

Let in ask, luddite that I am, about another relative-newness that seems 
to be a loser and I sure hope dies a worthy death [although since it is 
onelist [among others] perpetrating it, as with HTML I suspect 
rationality and tradition are doomed]:  

Gripe of the day is putting the list-name as a prefix on the subject 
line.  Majordomo has had the ability to do this for some time, but as far 
as I know, virtually every list admin has had the good sense *not* to 
enable this.  This morning, I got treated to the following:

[Home-Sat] Re: [[Home-Sat] Re: [[Home-Sat] DC Block Splitters]]

    (which brings up a more subtle problem of this style of list setup:
    if it is gatewayed to usenet [as it is in this case] it is actually
    in violation of rfc850: 

        If  the  article  is  submitted  in response  to another article
        (e.g., is a  "followup")  the default subject should  begin 
        with the  four  characters "Re: " and the References line is
        required.  (The user might wish to edit the subject of the 
        followup,  but  the default should begin with  "Re: ".) 

    Alas, we didn't have the foresight to make a similar rule for

So, am I just being a luddite, yet again, or should I send complaints to 
onelist [although fat lot of good it'll do I suspect]?  Would any of you 
actually make use of this 'feature' of Majordomo [or another listserv]?  
Should we/i suggest to the greatcircle folk to remove it from majordomo 
as being a bad idea?

Bernie Cosell                     Fantasy Farm Fibers     Pearisburg, VA
    -->  Too many people, too few sheep  <--          

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