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Subject: Re: Putting the listname on the Subject line
From: "Kenneth E. Bannister" <kenbannister @ groundwater . com>
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 16:56:57 -0500
To: <list-managers @ GreatCircle . COM>
Comments: SoVerNet Verification (on from [], 4 Mar 1999 16:47:45 -0500 (EST)
Reply-to: "Kenneth E. Bannister" <kenbannister @ groundwater . com>

My subscribers prefer a prefix in the subject line to identify the message. The whole list name is
not needed of course, only initials.  I received many requests from subscribers for this feature. If
they want it, why not?

It lets them know that the message is in fact from my list and is not just a personal message from

It also helps them tell which list the message is from, if they belong to several lists.

Unlike HTML which seems to triple the size of the message, I have yet to experience any real
downside from having a list identifier in the subject heading.

                              Kenneth E. Bannister

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-----Original Message-----
From: Bernie Cosell <>
To: list-managers@GreatCircle.COM <list-managers@GreatCircle.COM>
Date: Thursday, March 04, 1999 3:48 PM
Subject: Putting the listname on the Subject line

Let in ask, luddite that I am, about another relative-newness that seems
to be a loser and I sure hope dies a worthy death [although since it is
onelist [among others] perpetrating it, as with HTML I suspect
rationality and tradition are doomed]:

Gripe of the day is putting the list-name as a prefix on the subject
line.  Majordomo has had the ability to do this for some time, but as far
as I know, virtually every list admin has had the good sense *not* to
enable this.  This morning, I got treated to the following:

[Home-Sat] Re: [[Home-Sat] Re: [[Home-Sat] DC Block Splitters]]

    (which brings up a more subtle problem of this style of list setup:
    if it is gatewayed to usenet [as it is in this case] it is actually
    in violation of rfc850:

        If  the  article  is  submitted  in response  to another article
        (e.g., is a  "followup")  the default subject should  begin
        with the  four  characters "Re: " and the References line is
        required.  (The user might wish to edit the subject of the
        followup,  but  the default should begin with  "Re: ".)

    Alas, we didn't have the foresight to make a similar rule for

So, am I just being a luddite, yet again, or should I send complaints to
onelist [although fat lot of good it'll do I suspect]?  Would any of you
actually make use of this 'feature' of Majordomo [or another listserv]?
Should we/i suggest to the greatcircle folk to remove it from majordomo
as being a bad idea?

Bernie Cosell                     Fantasy Farm Fibers     Pearisburg, VA
    -->  Too many people, too few sheep  <--

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