On Mon, 11 Oct 1999, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
> When it came right down to it, this fellow was somewhat less than entirely
> specific regarding the nature and intent of his research:
Yes, but the lack of any forger and the fully proper configuration of his
site and domain helped.
> P.S. As long as we are still talking about it (and given that this episode
> makes it quite apparent that list admins may get their hackles raised by
> any sort of automated subscribes/unsubscribes) allow me to pose the question
> to the entire readership of this list: If someone sent you an E-mail (in
> your capacity as list managers) asking for a list of, for example, the
> envelope sender addresses used in outgoing traffic on/with your lists,
> would you send that info back, or would you balk?
It really depends on who it came from. It is possible that spammers might
like to use big list envelope froms as their forged envelope from, Now,
how do we determine who it came from and whether they are up to no good?
Generally if their reply-address is on a website that is linked to by
sites that I trust (say some known anti-spam sites), then I'll trust it
and happily provide the information.
One thing is that the query for some sites probably shouldn't go to the
list owners but to the MLM owner. For example, instead of mailling 80
list owners at Cranfield, some of whom would simply not understand the
question, it would be better to mail to firstname.lastname@example.org.
The trick is finding that address.
Oh, all majorodmo based lists at Cranfield have envelope froms of
(the majordomo (and traditional) default)
But over the next few months, I'll be introducing VERP and a special
virtual domain maillists.cranfield.ac.uk. So all this will change.
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