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Subject: Re: unwanted HTML
From: "William H. Geiger III" <whgiii @ openpgp . net>
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 01:04:38 -0600
To: "Tom Neff" <tneff @ bigfoot . com>
Cc: <List-Managers @ GreatCircle . COM>
In-reply-to: <NDBBLGMIGNLPGELLJNNICEDECCAA.tneff@bigfoot.com>

In <NDBBLGMIGNLPGELLJNNICEDECCAA.tneff@bigfoot.com>, on 12/28/99 
   at 10:41 AM, "Tom Neff" <tneff@bigfoot.com> said:

>At 1:51 PM -0800 12/23/99, SRE wrote:
>>  I also have a big problem with people mostly LookOut users,
>>  (or is that OutLook?) who insist they are not sending HTML
>>  format tags and thousands of nbsp's...

>In slight defense of these clueless @#$@#ing lusers :), Outlook goes out
>of its bloated way to sneak HTML in.  In the first place it gives you
>what looks like a format-enriched word processor editor, without telling
>you that the results will be rendered in HTML or using the word HTML at
>all unless you dig around... they just talk about "formatted" mail and
>give you a bunch of pretty little templates that makes it look as though
>Outlook mail is gorgeous and the competition's mail is dull.

>In the second place, even when you sucessfully discover the difference
>between HTML and plain text and absorb the principle that sending
>conservatively is polite, and you change Outlook's options to create and
>send plain text by default, there is a SEPARATE setting (easy to miss)
>that controls what happens if you REPLY to an HTML-ized message.  By
>default, Outlook will reply to a message in the format it was sent,
>whatever your other preferences may be.

>What we need is a plain text control just above the SMTP/Sendmail level. 
>By control I mean three settings: [1] accept everything and deliver it as
>received, [2] accept everything but deliver only the plain text portion,
>[3] actively refuse (bounce with an error message) anything with a non
>text component.  Putting it into Sendmail itself would really give it
>some teeth.

You could write a simple .procmail script that would handle this, all you
trigger on is "Content-Type: text/html;" in the header of the message and
go from there. You could even run these html messages through a html->text
converter if you wished (myself I just send them to /dev/null).

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