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Subject: Re: Yahho's [apparent] decision to drop Adult groups
From: "Nathan J. Mehl" <memory @ blank . org>
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 22:27:31 -0400
To: Amy Stinson <amys @ amys-answers . com>
Cc: list-managers @ greatcircle . com, list-moderators @ list-moderators . com
In-reply-to: <3AD96CBE.1442.6A1E1BE@localhost>; from amys@amys-answers.com on Sun, Apr 15, 2001 at 09:41:18AM -0500
References: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0104111001290.916-100000@two.elistx.com> <v03130313b6fa3ad3911c@[208.165.39.218]> <3AD96CBE.1442.6A1E1BE@localhost>
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In the immortal words of Amy Stinson (amys@amys-answers.com):
> Without a whole heck of a lot of fanfare, Y!groups deleted all the 
> adult groups with the exception of the humor areas.  
> 
> I'm guessing that they checked with their attorneys and found that 
> hosting adult groups without sufficient controls would leave them 
> open for litigation.

Unlikely.  They inherited most of those groups when they bought
egroups, which in turn got most of them from onelist.  Theres a _lot_
of legal and technical due diligence involved in that kind of
acquisition; the lawyers would have vetted everything long before
then.

A much more likely scenario is that their board of directors,
currently rather punch-drunk from having their stock price hammered
after profit warnings, decided that the current round of bad publicity
over the adult groups/shops on yahoo was the last headache they
wanted, and made a quick decision to pull the plug.  Unfortunate, but
I can't really say that I blame them.

Amusing side-note: once upon a time, I was the Postmaster and sr.
sysadmin for Mail.Com, formerly iName, one of the larger free email
providers.  Back in the stone ages, before we got our quota system
re-implemented (long, ugly story), one of my tasks was to occasionally
sweep for Grotesquely Large Mailboxes.

One day, we found one that had cropped up out of nowhere; the account
was less than 3 days old.  The mailbox had already hit 2 Gigabytes--
the maximum file size that Solaris 2.6 will handle.  

After quickly deleting the user, I had a bit of fun analyzing the file
in question -- 90% of its contents had come from _one_ mailing list:

	do_my_wife@onelist.com

I was pretty impressed that all that traffic had managed to come
through onelist's servers without any apparent trouble (especially as
a quick check revealed that the list had several thousand
subscribers).  I actually tried to pitch mail.com's
mergers/acquisitions department on buying onelist based on the fact
that I wanted to be able to do the technical due diligence on the deal
and see what they were using. :)

-n

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