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Subject: we aren't the enemy, but it's hard to prove it
From: Tom Neff <tneff @ panix . com>
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 08:02:36 -0400
To: List-Managers @ GreatCircle . COM
In-reply-to: <200104300800.BAA12507@honor.greatcircle.com>

The problem at the core of the AOL thing is one that comes up again and 
again here: It is asymptotically hard to distinguish between a legitimate 
mailing list and a spammer.  In Nature Channel terms, we are the ungainly 
host species which they cleverly mimic in order to snatch prey.  The 
characteristics that really do tell us apart or SHOULD tell us apart - (1) 
that recipients voluntarily joined and are expecting our list mailings, and 
(2) the senders are traceably real and uncloaked - are nearly impossible 
for an MTA to confirm automatically.  And if there were a magic cookie you 
could include to ensure safe passage at, say, AOL, it would instantly be 
exploited by spammers.

Nevertheless, as managers of mailing lists holding many thousands of AOL 
members, we should try to come up with something that works.  It's gonna be 
hard to do this in a way that can't be exploited though.





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