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Subject: Re: AOL Terms -- Revealed
From: "Steve Werby" <steve-lists @ befriend . com>
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 09:53:08 -0400
To: <list-managers @ GreatCircle . COM>, "Russ Allbery" <rra @ stanford . edu>
References: <Pine.SOL.4.10.10104292128080.14221-100000@katie.vnet.net> <yllmojjaih.fsf@windlord.stanford.edu>

"Russ Allbery" <rra@stanford.edu> wrote:
> I'm not sure you understand the issue.  The site getting all of the
> bounces may not be doing anything wrong at all.  It's very common now for
> spam software to use some valid domain name in the envelope sender of its
> messages to avoid spam checks for valid domains.  The messages never go
> anywhere near that domain and that domain isn't at fault in the slightest,
> but they get all the bounces.

I've been victim to this on several occasions dating back to 1999.  Spammers
in China seem particularly fond of my domain befriend.com.  And it's not
particularly easy or effective to contact ISPs and affiliate program content
providers in China, but I've done it on a few occassions.  I was blown away
by the volume of emails I received due to non-existing email addresses.
Apparently the spammers were working with low grade spam lists b/c at peak I
was receiving 400,000 bounces per day.

--
Steve Werby
President, Befriend Internet Services LLC
http://www.befriend.com/




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