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Subject: FW: OT: orbz shutdown
From: Chuq Von Rospach <chuqui @ plaidworks . com>
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 22:59:18 -0800
To: "list-managers @ GreatCircle . COM" <List-Managers @ greatcircle . com>
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Chuq Von Rospach, Architech --

Yes, I am an agent of Satan, but my duties
are largely ceremonial.

------ Forwarded Message
From: Will Day <>
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 01:12:24 -0500
To: Postfix list <>
Subject: OT: orbz shutdown


----- Forwarded message from ORBZ <> -----

Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 03:15:49 +0000
From: ORBZ <>
Subject: Shutdown

Here's the email that those of you with forward sight
have been fearing since the inception of ORBZ.

As of this moment, ORBZ is shutting down.  DNS zones
are going to stop resolving, the website will disappear
and mail will stop working (so furthur discussion on
this list probably won't work -- use NANAE).

I don't want to disappear in silence like ORBS, so I'll
try for as much description as possible without
compromising my own position.

I received an official court notice this afternoon to
turn over all information relation to ORBZ accounts.
This came from the 10th Judicial District court of the
State of Michigan.  It appears that ORBZ may be facing
criminal charges for denial of service relating to the
Lotus Domino issue.

I was happy to try to weather any civil issues that may
have come up, and I was committed to seeing it through.
However, the threat of jail time is too much; I don't
believe in this fight quite that much.

Thank you all for all your support.  I sincerely hope
that someone with the goal of carrying on the mission
of ORBZ pops up in another country with a less
foreboding legal system.  Anyone who has copies of the
current zones may do with them what they wish.

For those of you stuck without good spam filtering,
please consider ORDB and SpamCop; they both provide
excellent free solutions.

Ian Gulliver

This message was sent to the opt-in ORBZ list.
If you do not want to receive ORBZ messages,
please send mail to

----- End forwarded message -----

Will Day                  Those who would give up essential Liberty, to       purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve
O&E / Tech Support        Liberty nor Safety.
UNIX System Programmer      - Benjamin Franklin, Penn. Assembly, Nov. 11,
  -> Opinions expressed are mine alone and do not reflect OIT policy <-

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