On 16 May 2002, at 9:27, murr rhame wrote:
> On Thu, 16 May 2002, Sean Brunnock wrote:
> > I think it's odd that newspapers love to run stories about
> > mailmen who toss mail in the trash rather than deliver it,
> > but you never hear about ISPs that play games with email.
> As long as spammers exist, I fully support the right of ISPs to
> block spam sites. I also fully support the right of customers to
> complain when an ISP gets the filtering wrong. ...
Meta question -- in my experience, when one site 'blocks' another, they
do it by blocking ALL traffic from the blocked site. This strikes me as
bogus on two fronts:
1) it prevents anyone from figuring out what's going on [a user emails me
"How come I'm not getting your list", and I can't email back, since my
email gets blocked].
2) is arguably a violation of 2822 [which to my reading *requires* that
sites accept email addressed to 'postmaster'].
I was wondering if any of you have run across an ISP with enough of a
clue to [IMO] 'get it right' and leave postmaster open so that there's a
peephole through which the problem/misunderstanding/whatever can be
worked out? I haven't....
> ...I figure if a
> subscriber isn't getting their mail because their ISP is
> filtering, it's up to the customer/subscriber to read the riot
> act to their ISP.
All true, but often the subscriber can't figure out what's wrong, the
ISPs virtually NEVER tell their customers what they've done, and it is
left as a big mystery to figure out what's going on [with the added
fillip that you can't email the customer [or the ISP] to explain/probe].
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