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Subject: Re: e-postage again
From: Tom Neff <tneff @ grassyhill . net>
Organization: Grassy Hill Entertainment
Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 23:28:43 -0400
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Reply-to: tneff @ grassyhill . org

My point is that when at least some of us make a brief remark pointing to 
an idea or possibility, it is really not necessarily always the case that 
we are ignoramuses trying to "rehash" or "reinvent" something that greater, 
wiser and mightier intellects with fancier book credits have "discussed 
repeatedly."  Many of the discussions in question are no more productive 
than this one, for one thing; and some of us do read and follow them as 
interest and time permit.  I actually installed and played with hashcash 
last year, for example, and it did not seem to me to be the model I was 
looking for, but I am deuced if I am going to stop thinking about the 
problem just because some fellow Net veteran with a case of smartass ennui 
wants to jump to conclusions.

What I was going to say about e-postage was this.  Most of the existing 
postage models use it as a labor- or expense-based barrier to denial of 
service.  I am looking for something more like a proof of license to send. 
An individual email recipient could elect NOT to require valid postage from 
all or (more powerfully) a limited subset of senders.  If they want to see 
valid postage, though, they can.  Postage would hash the sender into the 
mark, so that a valid stamp could not be passed around.  Individual 
postage, with sender and recipient hashed into the mark, would be available 
for free via an individual Internet transaction.  "Bulk postage," for 
mailing lists, would only be available via an authenticated Internet 
transaction, using an account for which a legit bulk sender would have to 
enroll.  Bulk postage would only hash the sender (and maybe the listname) 
in.



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