On Tuesday, July 2, 2002, at 05:25 PM, JC Dill wrote:
> On 11:55 AM 7/2/02, Michael C. Berch wrote:
> >On Tuesday, July 2, 2002, at 11:35 AM, JC Dill wrote:
> >> Errors-To: <inet-list@vo.cnchost.com>
> >
> >Aha. Didn't notice that until Tom Neff pointed it out.
> >
> >You will definitely want to remove that from your postings.
>
> 1) I can't remove something I didn't add. There is no errors-to entry
> within my eudora.ini file, so this header is built by the mail client
> itself. I can't find any way to get Eudora to not add it (although, by
> making a manual entry in the .ini I can probably specify it to
> something else, which wouldn't be any better than letting Eudora
> specify it). I've been using Eudora for 6 years and sent and received
> many thousands and thousands of emails in this time, and this is the
> first time someone has tried to blame some mailing list behavior
> complaint I have on my choice of mail client.
It doesn't come from Eudora, so far as I know. Brent uses Eudora, and
his messages don't have an Errors-To, and I just fired up an old copy of
Eudora (not the current version, but less than 6 years old) and it did
not insert the header either. My assumption is that it comes from your
site's MTA.
From the headers it appears to be something called "ConcentricHost SMTP
Relay 1.14". I've never heard of that, and unless there is some
compelling reason to run a homebrew MTA, you might get more predictable
behaviour with one of the major products out there.
> Thus, it's still my belief that this list is improperly configured, not
> my mail client. From this ObList-Manager's perspective, a discussion
> list should *always* make itself the reply recipient for bounces of any
> messages it receives and then retransmits (to addresses unknown to the
> original sender), so that the list manager can address the problem -
> because ONLY the list manager can address the problem (remove the stale
> addresses).
The list *does* make itself (actually the list-owner address) the SMTP
envelope address for errors and bounces, for exactly the reasons you
mention, and because it is an Internet best practice, if not a formal
standard. However, we cannot be responsible for a user or site who
chooses to override that configuration by running a broken MUA or MTA.
--
Michael C. Berch
List-Managers list manager
mcb@greatcircle.com
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