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Subject: Re: Please prune this list!
From: J C Lawrence <claw @ kanga . nu>
Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2002 22:59:35 -0700
To: "Roger B.A. Klorese" <rogerk @ queernet . org>
Cc: Thomas Gramstad <thomas @ ifi . uio . no>,list-managers <list-managers @ greatcircle . com>
In-reply-to: Message from "Roger B.A. Klorese" <rogerk@queernet.org> of "Thu, 04 Jul 2002 22:49:33 PDT." <3D25336D.4080107@queernet.org>
References: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0207050354550.9765-100000@stjorn.ifi.uio.no> <22440.1025836984@kanga.nu> <3D250BF4.6020502@queernet.org> <24019.1025847869@kanga.nu> <3D25336D.4080107@queernet.org>

On Thu, 04 Jul 2002 22:49:33 -0700 
Roger B A Klorese <Roger> wrote:
> J C Lawrence wrote:

>> There is a product which identifies itself as Eudora Pro.

> There has not been a current product by that name in at least two
> years.

I have a number of list members whose X-Mail lines identify them as
using Eudora Pro.  Its quite possible they are using older versions.

>> At the attribution level it is recognisable due to the fact that
>> unlike base Eudora on a group reply it will attribute to the From:
>> rather than the inane "you".

> That's no longer true for a current product.

Does the current product no longer attribute to "you"?

>> -- lack of encouragement of top posting due to quote formatting and
>> presentation

> I think you need to get used to this one. 

I disallow it on my lists and have my SPAM filters set to score it as
noise.  So far as a filter that's worked quite well, especially on the
level of distinguishing "messages I want to read" vs "generic list
noise".

> Top-posting is most useful and comfortable for people who are involved
> in a conversation and need to see the response 1000% of the time and
> may only need to check the context about 5-10% of the time.

I tend to have a different view of top posting and its effect on
conversation, especially for lists.  I find that top posting discourages
thread detail and depth by effectively forbidding the debate or analysis
of finely defined points, that it encourages pomposity and bombast
rather than discourse, that it encourages retort instead of considered
reply, and that it discourages useful thread splits and forks while
encouraging thread dissolution.

-- 
J C Lawrence                
---------(*)                Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. 
claw@kanga.nu               He lived as a devil, eh?		  
http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/  Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live.



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