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Subject: Re: Please prune this list!
From: "Roger B.A. Klorese" <rogerk @ queernet . org>
Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2002 23:04:37 -0700
To: J C Lawrence <claw @ kanga . nu>
Cc: Thomas Gramstad <thomas @ ifi . uio . no>,list-managers <list-managers @ greatcircle . com>
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J C Lawrence wrote:
>>>At the attribution level it is recognisable due to the fact that
>>>unlike base Eudora on a group reply it will attribute to the From:
>>>rather than the inane "you".
>>
>>That's no longer true for a current product.
> 
> Does the current product no longer attribute to "you"?

It does attribute to "you."

> I disallow it on my lists and have my SPAM filters set to score it as
> noise.  So far as a filter that's worked quite well, especially on the
> level of distinguishing "messages I want to read" vs "generic list
> noise".

Funny, nearly all of our business mail looks that way, and people get 
nagged at if they bottom-post on work mail for making people read 
context before the additions.

> I tend to have a different view of top posting and its effect on
> conversation, especially for lists.  I find that top posting discourages
> thread detail and depth by effectively forbidding the debate or analysis
> of finely defined points, that it encourages pomposity and bombast
> rather than discourse, that it encourages retort instead of considered
> reply, and that it discourages useful thread splits and forks while
> encouraging thread dissolution.

I find that most people are not interested in participating in that sort 
of discussion anyway on anything other than a tightly-focused topic list 
(of which there are fewer and fewer) of technical substance (whether 
computer-related or for serious students of some other discipline). 
That accounts for, oh, about 10% of the lists I'm on and about 1% of the 
lists we host.




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