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Subject: Re: MUA elitism
From: J C Lawrence <claw @ kanga . nu>
Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2002 16:21:15 -0700
To: "Roger B.A. Klorese" <rogerk @ queernet . org>
Cc: list-managers @ greatcircle . com
In-reply-to: Message from "Roger B.A. Klorese" <rogerk@queernet.org> of "Fri, 05 Jul 2002 16:11:12 PDT." <3D262790.7060802@queernet.org>
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On Fri, 05 Jul 2002 16:11:12 -0700 
Roger B A Klorese <Roger> wrote:
> J C Lawrence wrote:

>> Again, this devolves to a question of purpose, and then the question
>> of the democracy of the loudest voice versus creator's or owner's
>> intent.

> You ignore that I said that it's the STATED PURPOSE of most of these
> lists to BE a salon, not a topic-focused discussion.

I read your post as stating that was the member's purpose as distinct
from the list' purpose.

>> Possibly the most interesting aspect here is that the simple address
>> of forking the list and splitting off a duplicate list (identical
>> membership) with a charter explicitly targeted for a salon always
>> fails.

> And at our site it has succeded more than 50% of the time.

Really?  You have taken purposive lists and forked them successfully as
above, or you have taken lists that decayed into salon lists nd found
that they can survive as salon lists?  The two are quite different.

-- 
J C Lawrence                
---------(*)                Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. 
claw@kanga.nu               He lived as a devil, eh?		  
http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/  Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live.



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