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Subject: Re: identifying list mail by any appearance in the headers
From: J C Lawrence <claw @ kanga . nu>
Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2002 10:30:42 -0700
To: "David W. Tamkin" <dattier @ ripco . com>
Cc: list-managers @ greatcircle . com (list-managers)
In-reply-to: Message from "David W. Tamkin" <dattier@ripco.com> of "Sat, 06 Jul 2002 11:58:23 CDT." <200207061658.g66GwNR05629@pop2a.ripco.com>
References: <200207061658.g66GwNR05629@pop2a.ripco.com>

On Sat, 6 Jul 2002 11:58:23 -0500 (CDT) 
David W Tamkin <dattier@ripco.com> wrote:

> Some people never say who wrote the text they quote, as if all their
> posts were corrections of others' errors and it were a kindness not to
> embarrass the quotees by reminding the list who said those dumb
> things.  I think that's very rude and didn't intend to come off that
> way.

Correct attribution is one of the things I insist on for my lists.
Posts that don't attribute their quotes are simply rejected with a
pointer to the list guidelines on attribution.  Predictably this pisses
some people off, especially new posters who didn't know/notice and have
their posts rejected.

I've observed a few behaviours that seem to correlate:

  -- Identities are particularly strong on the list.  Ideas are
  associated with specific people, often named after them, and referred
  to by an attributed shorthand.  eg: "Marion's Stamp Collector".

    -- Personal references to other posters by name/GECOS/email_id in
    message bodies are significantly higher than other comparable lists
    I'm on.  This would seem another aspect of string identities.

  -- Back references by name to prior out-of-thread quotes and posts are
  common.  The apparency is that posters are tracking content and
  authors as tuples and know them well enough to refer to them casually.

  -- Posters watch attributions and actively notice and aggressively
  correct attribution errors (sometimes I goof and pass a
  mis-attribution).

-- 
J C Lawrence                
---------(*)                Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. 
claw@kanga.nu               He lived as a devil, eh?		  
http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/  Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live.



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