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Subject: Re: identifying list mail by any appearance in the headers
From: J C Lawrence <claw @ kanga . nu>
Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2002 13:12:54 -0700
To: JC Dill <inet-list @ vo . cnchost . com>
Cc: list-managers @ greatcircle . com (list-managers)
In-reply-to: Message from JC Dill <inet-list@vo.cnchost.com> of "Sat, 06 Jul 2002 11:39:14 PDT." <5.0.0.25.2.20020706112817.039f0eb0@pop3.vo.cnchost.com>
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On Sat, 06 Jul 2002 11:39:14 -0700 
JC Dill <inet-list@vo.cnchost.com> wrote:
> On 09:48 AM 7/6/02, David W. Tamkin wrote:

>> and either (a) I follow the common practice of adding "[off-list from
>> <listname>]" to the subject ...

> Common?  I've *never* had email identified in that manner.

I suspect its a subculture.  It was new to me about 3 years ago when I
ran across it on the SVLUG list via a Rick Moen rant.  I don't know if I
simply didn't notice it before that, but I see it quite often now.  It
may also be that my list demographics have moved to better match the
population that uses OFF-LIST flags, or just that a significant
percentage of those who send me off-list mail are also recipients of
Rick Moen rants.  Dunno.

That all said adding an OFF-LIST tag seems both reasonable and valuable.
It makes something explicit and polite that helps the recipient handle
the mail appropriately.

> When I read the email, I can see the headers of who it is (and isn't)
> sent to.  When I reply, I select "reply".  If the sender has put the
> list address as the reply-to, the reply message is going to be
> addressed back to the sender, if not the reply message is going to be
> sent to the author.

I've gotten lazy.  I use group-reply everywhere, even for private mail
(which works as group-reply is equivalent to standard reply for personal
mail).  The only time I use standard reply is when I'm very conciously
deciding to limit distribution.

> Nope.  I NEVER just "change it to point to the list".  When dealing
> with a list that leaves reply-to set to the author, (such as this
> list) and desiring to reply to the whole list (and not just the
> author, as in this particular case), I select "reply to all" to get
> the list address in the reply message, and then delete all extraneous
> addresses (often including duplicates) as needed.  A bothersome extra
> step, but I feel that netiquette is important.

Fair dinkum and very well within your rights in controlling and limiting
the distribution of messages you author.  Do remember however that this
is a private consensus as there is a reasonable probability that some of
the addresses you are removing would prefer to receive a second
"courtesy copy".  After all, if they didn't they would have set Reply-To
themselves or otherwise trimmed the distribution list...

<Insert rant here about MUAs which don't allow easy ad-hoc Reply-To
setting>

-- 
J C Lawrence                
---------(*)                Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. 
claw@kanga.nu               He lived as a devil, eh?		  
http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/  Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live.



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