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Subject: Re: Please prune this list!
From: "Roger B.A. Klorese" <rogerk @ queernet . org>
Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2002 16:39:21 -0700
To: Nick Simicich <njs @ scifi . squawk . com>
Cc: list-managers <list-managers @ greatcircle . com>
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Nick Simicich wrote:
> And whose "non-standard's based calendar wins?"  Alternatively, "When do 
> you want to meet?" in a plain text message works everywhere.

Everywherishness isn't important to me. Auto-checking the availability 
of conference rooms, conference call lines, and projectors is.

> If you are scheduling meeting rooms, then you can assume assent if no 
> one else is meeting.

Not without a scheduling system that auto-confirms for the room, and 
allows higher-priority people to bounce you.

> If you are scheduling people, you need buy-in....unless they work for 
> you and you can order them to go.  So automated scheduling simply does 
> not work across organizations.

I use it betwen *companies* -- the fact that they can have it 
automatically show up on their calendar as a tentative appointment and 
use that to address conflicts is a great boon.

> I can never see a situation where it would be appropriate to deliver a 
> presentation by e-mail that a URL to a web site would not be superior.  

When I want the presentation material to end up at their end, of course. 
  And when I only one the content making one trip over the net rather 
than every time they ned to view it.

> Especially not in the mailing list context.

A mailing list is nothing but a delivery strategem (store-and-forward) 
with an addressing mode (broadcast) over a particular set of protocols. 
  Nothing about that seems inappropriate to me.

>> I totally disagree.  Again: if a list also meets off-list or by chat, 
>> integrated scheduling would be a boon.  For that matter, delivering a 
>> usable Java or ActiveX chat thin-client in a message body would be as 
>> well.
> 
> Suicidal.  Microsoft has even turned off active X and Java by e-mail by 
> default. 

Fix the problem, don't throw your hands up.  I *want* the damn thing to 
be able to start by itself when it is opened or previewed.




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