On 7/7/02 12:12 PM, "J C Lawrence" <claw@kanga.nu> wrote:
>> No, it's not possible. Trust me on that.
>
> Care to comment a little on this?
Not really, sorry. Other than to note that it's fairly easy to build bugs
that either can't be neutered without destroying the message, or to build
bugs that can't be recognized as bugs.
>> Part one is: users need to push vendors to allow them to opt-out of
>> these types of systems. You should be able to request to not be
>> tracked.
>
> Kinda tough really given that the market is uncontrolled and ad-hoc.
Not really. Users simply need to go to the vendors that need to change, and
lobby them. The fact is, the market being uncontrolled and as-hoc has very
little to do with it. The small number of users that CARE is the major issue
here. The only advantage some kind of cooperative organization would have is
that it's an easier target for a small but noisy group to target. If you
can't build critical mass in the user base, the alternative is to try to
find some target on the vendor side a small group can, um, influence. The
lack of either means nothing gets done -- but frankly, it also implies it
probably doesn't need to be.
If you want that to change, convince users to care, and then organize enough
to get them lobbying the companies they work with.
> Now my demographics are unusual and narrow.
Definitely. But it doesn't surprise me that an admin that takes a fairly
high profile on their local systems tends to attract like-minded users ot
those systems. That's to be expected.
Which is a wonderful example of why each system needs to know what makes
sense for THEIR users, and why what happens on one system isn't necessarily
(or likely) to generalize out to most sites.
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