On Sun, 07 Jul 2002 17:13:44 -0700
Chuq Von Rospach <chuqui@plaidworks.com> wrote:
> On 7/7/02 12:12 PM, "J C Lawrence" <claw@kanga.nu> wrote:
>>> No, it's not possible. Trust me on that.
>> Care to comment a little on this?
> Not really, sorry. Other than to note that it's fairly easy to build
> bugs that either can't be neutered without destroying the message, or
> to build bugs that can't be recognized as bugs.
Pretty much the same point I got to. I've spent quite a while trying to
build tenable proof-cases without getting one I can't knock down with
minimal thought. Kinda hoped you might shed some light on how you got
there too in case I missed something.
> Not really. Users simply need to go to the vendors that need to
> change, and lobby them. The fact is, the market being uncontrolled and
> as-hoc has very little to do with it. The small number of users that
> CARE is the major issue here. The only advantage some kind of
> cooperative organization would have is that it's an easier target for
> a small but noisy group to target. If you can't build critical mass in
> the user base, the alternative is to try to find some target on the
> vendor side a small group can, um, influence. The lack of either means
> nothing gets done -- but frankly, it also implies it probably doesn't
> need to be.
...for the general case. Corners are always messier.
>> Now my demographics are unusual and narrow.
> Definitely. But it doesn't surprise me that an admin that takes a
> fairly high profile on their local systems tends to attract
> like-minded users ot those systems. That's to be expected.
Touche.
--
J C Lawrence
---------(*) Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas.
claw@kanga.nu He lived as a devil, eh?
http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live.
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