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Subject: Re: The role of the mailing list
From: Chuq Von Rospach <chuqui @ plaidworks . com>
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:58:19 -0700
To: <tneff @ grassyhill . org>, <list-managers @ greatcircle . com>
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On 7/12/02 5:40 PM, "Tom Neff" <tneff@grassyhill.net> wrote:

> I know all about must vs should etc, but clearly 1153 envisioned trimming
> headers to the form you actually see them in text digests

I didn't want the walls painted misty white, I wanted them painted foggy
morning white!

> I stand by my earlier comments - the text Digest as a readable daily
> omnibus of a list's traffic is a paradigm that has stood well for over a
> decade, and will continue.  Bursting, MIME "digests" etc, are all
> speculative bits of cleverness that programmers thought up in an attempt to
> "improve" on something that was already working and that people liked.

But what everyone in the discussion seems to be missing is that there are
different digest formats for a  reason -- different people use them for
different things. Old style text digests do exactly what Tom says. Newer
style MIME digests don't replace that functionality. They add a new,
DIFFERENT functionality -- to allow users to receive the mail in a single
large piece, and then recreate it into individual messages. This is perfect
for the person who hates text digests (like me), but doesn't want the
interruption or overhead of constant delivery by a busy mail list
(admittedly not me. I just filter it to a folder and ignore it - but there
are those without server-side filters who find the accept-and-filter too
much of an interruption).

So on one side, you're arguing that the banana makes a terrible mango, and
on the other, you're arguing that mangos shouldn't be banana-like. The two
digest setups exist in parallel because they solve different problems, and
both sides seem to be fighting as if only one type of digest CAN exist, and
it MUST solve all problems. Not true. Honest.


-- 
Chuq Von Rospach, Architech
chuqui@plaidworks.com -- http://www.chuqui.com/

IMHO: Jargon. Acronym for In My Humble Opinion. Used to flag as an opinion
something that is clearly from context an opinion to everyone except the
mentally dense. Opinions flagged by IMHO are actually rarely humble. IMHO.
    (source: third unabridged dictionary of chuqui-isms).




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