Two of my lists were signed up to m.gmane.org over the last couple of
days. The userid that they used made me suspect something was going on,
and I looked at http://www.gmane.org/
I have a policy that disallows this -- external exploders and archives and
so forth. External archives are disallowed because of mailing list
harvesting, confidentiality, and external exploders are disallowed because
it is just a royal pain in da butt! Sooner or later someone will gateway
this stuff back to mail and guess who the bounces will come to? That's
right, not them... It looks like you verify to them and then they accept
your postings and pass the posted mail back to you under the original
address, which means that you will end up approving unsubscribed postings,
maybe, or maybe you will bounce them, or add them to the posting list, or
so forth.
I read through some of the discussion, and I noted that they allow people
to "request" that mailing lists be added to their hierarchy. They then
seem to do it without asking (no one asked me, anyway). The unexpurgated
archives are available via the newsfeed, although they have started munging
addresses out of the web (using a predictable algorithm).
Many of our lists are "subscriber only" archives by list policy, while
others default to that. These archives are available to any registered
user of the system, and they will set up feeds, thereby blasting your
archives widely about.
Quoting from their site:
>This is what Gmane offers. Mailing lists are funnelled into news groups.
>This isn't a new idea; several mail-to-news gateways exist. What's new with
>Gmane is that no messages are ever expired from the server, and the gateway
>is bi-directional. You can post to these mailing lists without being
>subscribed to them yourself.
>
>Not all mailing lists allow non-subscribers to post, and some are moderated.
>Gmane requires that users post to Gmane groups using a valid e-mail address,
>and requires a one-time authorization per group.
I can easily imagine people who do not care about this. I do, and I
suspect that at least some of you folks on list-managers might as well, so
I thought I'd give you a heads up. (I have checked all the lists on my
system -- a couple in the squawk.com domain were subbed and no others were,
I do not believe that any are now). I have also blocked this domain from
all virtuals, so that they cannot enter any subscribes,
This rule in your GLOBAL access_rules should completely lock them out of a
virtual domain if you add it to the access_rules in Majordomo2. (At least,
it works for all my tests and it is in all my virtual domains in Mj2).
access
deny
/(?i)(^|\.|\@)gmane\.org/
--
In your country and mine we should have the privilege of making fun of this
kind of morality, but it would be unkind to do it here. Many of these
people have the reasoning faculty, but no one uses it in religious
matters. - Mark Twain - Letters From The Earth
Nick Simicich - njs@scifi.squawk.com
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