At 11:45 PM 2002-07-31 -0700, Chuq Von Rospach wrote:
>On 7/31/02 11:10 PM, "Nick Simicich" <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> > I have a policy that disallows this -- external exploders and archives and
> > so forth.
>Silly (sort of) question. Is it published?
Yes. Part of the FAQ. There were accesses to the FAQ the day that the
lists were signed up, but I have no idea whether the gmane people did
it. Had they searched the FAQ for the string "archive" they would have
found the note that requires any external archiver to contact each message
author individually for permission.
They responded to my note to postmaster, and I replied with my opinion that
this violates the mailing list owner's compilation copyright and that they
need to contact the mailing list owner for permission before making this
sort of connection. My site policies would stop me from granting any such
permission --- the right to participate in an external archive or not is
reserved to the individual message author.
>Here's why I ask. I went and looked, and my plaidworks lists were subscribed
>to gmane.org (I've fixed that, and sent a "delete from your system all
>messages) note. The lists.apple.com lists weren't. Lists explicitly makes it
>clear it's not allowed. Plaidworks doesn't (but will).
>So it looks like they didn't ask either of us, but didn't create gateways
>for the lists on a site that said not to. So I'm curious whether your site
>also explicitly says not to and was ignored (or the note was missed), or if
>they somehow missed all the apple lists, but still found my small home
>listserver (I don't find that likely).
More likely that the note was missed, although it is also possible that no
one specifically asked that the apple lists be gatewayed. They have some
discussions on line (and, I'll bet, googleable) and you might try searching
I'm going to change my name to 'Squawk' because that is what my parrots
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