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Subject: Re: m.gmane.org
From: bwarsaw @ python . org (Barry A. Warsaw)
Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 17:25:53 -0400
To: Charlie Summers <charlie @ lofcom . com>
Cc: J C Lawrence <claw @ kanga . nu>,list-managers <list-managers @ greatcircle . com>
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>>>>> "CS" == Charlie Summers <charlie@lofcom.com> writes:

    >> GMane, mail-archive.com etc offer an extremely useful service
    >> for a great many lists which do not have external
    >> archiver/exploder policies (mail-archive for instance is my
    >> preferred tool for search the Linux Kernel and BugTraq lists).

    CS>    I respectfully disagree. ANY archiver which allows
    CS> "subscription requests" to be sent by anyone, without the
    CS> express permission of the list owner, is engaged in theft.

Of course, there's a difference between a subscription request and a
grant of subscription.  If list content, membership, and
archive-ability are that sacred for a list (an obviously valid concern
for some lists), then the ability to gain a feed worthy of archiving
or gating has to be more tightly controlled.

>>>>> "JCL" == J C Lawrence <claw@kanga.nu> writes:

    JCL> There's a cultural divide here.  Its similar to the cultural
    JCL> divide between the idea of a list-mom versus a list-owner.

Very useful observation, JC!

    JCL> Which of course puts this solidly in the realm of the
    JCL> cultural divide surrounding DRM, and say, MP3 distribution.

Except that here there's no uber-entity attempting to sue the whole
technology out of existance just because it /can/ be used to violate
someone's copyrights.  Yet.

-Barry



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