>> Basically, they won't archive any list that doesn't want to be archived,
>> but if the list is open for subscription, the list owner has to either
>> notice the subscription message or opt out.
>
> That makes sense. Either the list owner pays attention to who subscribes
> or doesn't. As a list member, I know that anyone or anything can be
> lurking on most lists. I really don't see a problem here.
I do. My big site has 50+ lists. It generates a good number of subscribes a
day. My list rules specifically state not to externally archive any mailing
list without my explicit approval.
So -- why do I then have to watch the subscriptions, happen to notice a
series of subscriptions that imply a site is subscribing to my lists, and
then track them down and see whether or not they're following my rules?
It is the responsibility of the admin to make their rules clear. It is the
responsibility of the person taking this archival action to abide by those
rules. It's not my responsibility as admin to notice them doing this and the
go tell them to cut it out -- unless they don't feel what I want done is
important or worth paying attention to. And if they have that attitude,
they'll end up getting treated as spam harvesters, since that's how they're
acting.
If my list rules DON'T tell them what they can and can't do, my bad. If it
does and they expect me to notice and stop them, their bad. Seems pretty
straightforward. If you ignore my list rules, I'll assume it's because you
don't feel they apply, not that you feel I should have to track them down
and hand them to you personally.
>> (I consider all lists that I run with public subscription to be public
>> lists exactly as described on that page, so I'm not of any help there.)
>
> Me, too. Indeed, I've been "nominating" the lists I manage to gmane since
> this discussion came up.
"public" is not enough. You also need to evaluate whether the usage
restrictions set on that list (if any) are compatible with gmane, also.
My subscribe page points to the list rules. My welcome message does, also.
Seems to me that ought to be enough to cause someone to check them to see if
what they're doing is acceptable to me.
--
Chuq Von Rospach, Architech
chuqui@plaidworks.com -- http://www.chuqui.com/
Stress is when you wake up screaming and you realize you haven't fallen
asleep yet.
Follow-Ups:
References:
|
|
