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Subject: Re: Listing list-managers on gmane
From: "Michael C. Berch" <mcb @ postmodern . com>
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 17:27:50 -0500
To: List Managers Mailing list <list-managers @ greatcircle . com>,`@greatcircle.com
In-reply-to: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0208051236300.4059-100000@lehel.goldmark.private>

Hi all --

I'm typing this on a plane so I don't know when it will be delivered or 
in what context, but personally, I don't see the value of listing or 
archiving or whatever it is that gmane.org offers. I haven't 
investigated it beyond what has been discussed here, but all the 
previous external list services have had problems associated with them, 
both major (the site tried to pass the list off as theirs) and minor 
(some people were confused about where the list was hosted and how to 
join/leave, especially if the host name changed and the service did not 
pick it up).

List-Managers seems to do quite well on its own here at Great Circle 
without the need for external services, processing, or promotion.  (It's 
easy to find in a search engine.)  There are local archives here, and 
external, searchable archives at mail-archive.org.    The same distrust 
extends especially to Yahoo, whose privacy and IP policies have mutated 
in some questionable directions in the last year or two.

So I do not plan to have List-Managers participate in gmane, nor in 
Yahoo Groups, or other services, unless there is some mass outcry and 
consensus that it would be valuable to do so.  I can't speak for Brent, 
who is the founder and host, but I'd guess his opinions are at least 
vaguely congruent.

--
Michael C. Berch
List-Managers list-manager
mcb@greatcircle.com / mcb@postmodern.com


On Monday, August 5, 2002, at 02:39  PM, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote:
> Is there any objection to listing this list (list-managers) on gmane in
> the "munge" mode?
>
> We already know that this list is publically archived on greatcircle.
>
> There is currently discussion about the discussion on this list on
> gname.discuss.  (Did anyone follow that sentence?).
>
> -j
>
> --
> Jeffrey Goldberg                            
> http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/
> Relativism is the triumph of authority over truth, convention over 
> justice
>




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