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Subject: Re: Listing list-managers on gmane
From: Aditya <aditya @ grot . org>
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 10:36:26 -0700
To: Chuq Von Rospach <chuqui @ plaidworks . com>
Cc: List Managers Mailing list <list-managers @ greatcircle . com>
In-reply-to: <B97E8EB6.4CD66%chuqui@plaidworks.com>
References: <20020813171802.GB87906@mighty.grot.org> <B97E8EB6.4CD66%chuqui@plaidworks.com>

On Tue, Aug 13, 2002 at 10:23:50AM -0700, Chuq Von Rospach wrote:
> On 8/13/02 10:18 AM, "Aditya" <aditya@grot.org> wrote:
> 
> > gmane gives people read-only access using a different transport -- do you, or
> > do you wish to restrict read-access to web-based mailing list archives?
> 
> Actually, yes. Here's why.
> 
> Someone on my list decides to "go troll". I kick him off my list. He decides
> to get stupid about it, so he starts reading the archives and sending
> abusive responses privately. I blackhole his IP address from my archives.

what do you do if they switch to using a different IP address? wouldn't "email
address obfuscation" be an easier first-step?

> So now he simply signs up for gmane and continues abusing my users via
> private email by reading the archives on gmane. What's my option? Cutting
> gmane off? I've lost control of being able to police my own list.

so does the "email address obfuscation" approach adopted by gmane not help in
this case?

> > You always have the option of asking gmane not to "carry" your mailing list,
> 
> Well, unfortunately, the first I found out about this was when I had to ask
> them to StOP carrying them, because they'd started without asking first,
> but...

yeah, that was a M.O. that was a bit too trusting, and gmane has become more
careful about that so hopefully such occurances should be rare.

Adi



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