On 8/13/02 10:36 AM, "Aditya" <aditya@grot.org> wrote:
>> Someone on my list decides to "go troll". I kick him off my list. He decides
>> to get stupid about it, so he starts reading the archives and sending
>> abusive responses privately. I blackhole his IP address from my archives.
>
> what do you do if they switch to using a different IP address? wouldn't "email
> address obfuscation" be an easier first-step?
If the troll decides to send me on a fox hunt, so be it. I've done that,
too. I've usually won (the longest battle went 18 months before I found
him). There are lots of things a troll can do if they want. Gmane makes it
easy to do things that I can't control, because gmane isn't under my
control.
> so does the "email address obfuscation" approach adopted by gmane not help in
> this case?
Depends on if gmane is willing to carry out individual bans or not, if the
troll can mail through the obfuscation because he's a member of gmane and I
can't get him stopped, I have a problem.
And yes, maybe all this can be worked out. But as administrator, I don't
have the time or energy to do that, or the interest. Especially since
there's little benefit for me and my people. And if the gmane.org
administrators started having to police 200 lists 40 different ways because
of each site wants it done some way, they'll quickly hit the "can't handle
the complexity" problem and it'll break down. Gmane works because it depends
on all of the sites "out there" feeding into it accepting how gmane wants to
do things. If gmane had to start adapting to the policies of all the sites
it's taking feeds from, it'd fall into chaos amazingly fast.
It comes down to a loss of control. And not being worth my time to add gmane
to me "web of trust". I'd best we could do it, actually. I just don't find
it worht the time and energy.
--
Chuq Von Rospach, Architech
chuqui@plaidworks.com -- http://www.chuqui.com/
IMHO: Jargon. Acronym for In My Humble Opinion. Used to flag as an opinion
something that is clearly from context an opinion to everyone except the
mentally dense. Opinions flagged by IMHO are actually rarely humble. IMHO.
(source: third unabridged dictionary of chuqui-isms).
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