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Subject: Re: Listing list-managers on gmane
From: Jeffrey Goldberg <jeffrey @ goldmark . org>
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 13:03:56 -0700 (PDT)
To: List Managers Mailing list <list-managers @ greatcircle . com>
In-reply-to: <20020813194850.GB93188@mighty.grot.org>
Reply-to: Jeffrey Goldberg <jeffrey @ goldmark . org>

On Tue, 13 Aug 2002, Aditya wrote:

> gmane or the person who suggested list-managers to gmane should make sure
> permission is granted before subscription and it was an oversight not to.

I only "suggested" it here, merely by posting the query that started this
thread. I most certainly did not sign it up without the list manager's
permission. It might be useful for gmane to have a mechanism (maybe it
does) for a list manager to pre-emptively say not to honor requests to add
the list. (I'm not advocating opt-out, but just a mechanism that can help
reduce errors.)

> Any and all lists that do not wish to be archived by gmane should not be
> archived. If that decision for list-managers is not taken by a vote of list
> members then ignore my +1 for archiving list-managers on gmane.

Me, too.  If the list manager is polling subscribers on this question, I
would like to see it added to gmane.  But the list manager is under no
obligation to poll subscribers.  I do understand and sympathize with the
points about "control", although I don't find that a big issue for this
list.  But I'm happy to leave things to the list managers discretion.

> >    If all you want to do is read list-managers using a newsreader, why not
> > set up a private server on a spare linux box and use any of the various
> > mail-to-news kludges to pump the mail into it?
>
> been there, done that since 1995, and honestly it's something I'd rather have
> someone else do, like gmane.

Also there may be subscribers who don't have the skills or resources to do
that. Gmane provides a useful service, at the cost of giving up some
control. It's up to the list owner to make the choice (and he appearently
has).

-j

-- 
Jeffrey Goldberg                            http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/
Relativism is the triumph of authority over truth, convention over justice




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