>>>>> "RA" == Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu> writes:
RA> I don't believe that it's possible to change this until
RA> someone develops working cross-browser Javascript, since there
RA> is no organization of web archives that's going to be
RA> acceptable so long as every time you click on anything you
RA> have to do a round-trip page retrieval from the server.
Agreed, and who knows when that'll happen. We've been talking about
similar stuff in the Zope world, where roundtrips and html guis suck
hard too. The consensus is that client-side Java is dead and that
things like Flash MX has some promise. Me, I dunno.
RA> The ideal web archive looks and functions exactly like the
RA> user's mail client, but with enhanced search features. This
RA> is exactly why Gmane is so cool, because that's close to what
RA> it is.
RA> (Which indicates to me that the real future of archiving of
RA> mailing lists is in read-only IMAP folders.)
We've also talked about gmane like nntp access to the back end, but I
suppose that doesn't have searching.
I gotta mention TwistedMatrix and Zope again, but I think that a
protocol framework backed by real database is where this is heading.
You throw the messages into the store and then vend it out in any of a
number of different protocols depending on the user's needs. Such a
system could serve the messages out via nntp, pop, imap, http, etc.,
etc. using the client's native u/i's rather than crafty a web-based
one that'll suck anyway. :)
-Barry
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