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From: Russ Allbery <rra @ stanford . edu>
Organization: The Eyrie
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 21:51:17 -0700
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In-reply-to: <29868375.1029544268@[192.168.254.8]> (Tom Neff's message of"Sat, 17 Aug 2002 00:31:08 -0400")
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Tom Neff <tneff@grassyhill.net> writes:

> FWIW I disagree with Russ - the Web is really better at this stuff in
> terms of (a) scaling up to large, long-lived lists, (b) sophisticated
> searching (even, or especially, via Google) and (c) flexibility of human
> interface. And I say this as an avid IMAP user.

I'll believe that when I see an archive interface that I can stand to use
more than occasionally with a great deal of pain.  I'm still looking.
Google doesn't cut it either (although Google Groups is certainly better
than 99% of the mailing list archives out there).

> The meta-lesson, if you will, is that you should store your list
> archives in the most presentation-independent format possible, so as to
> preserve your options when you change your mind every five years, or
> when archive browsing technology leaps.  Don't cook messages permanently
> into HTML pages.

Saving the archives as mbox files or as separate files per message is
probably the best, as the e-mail format is more stable than most anything
else.

-- 
Russ Allbery (rra@stanford.edu)             <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>



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