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Subject: Re: idea: Google Lists
From: J C Lawrence <claw @ kanga . nu>
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 21:14:10 -0700
To: Chuq Von Rospach <chuqui @ plaidworks . com>
Cc: Rich Kulawiec <rsk @ magpage . com>,List Managers Mailing list <list-managers @ greatcircle . com>
In-reply-to: Message from Chuq Von Rospach <chuqui@plaidworks.com> of "Sat, 17 Aug 2002 20:59:02 PDT." <D4C916D4-B25E-11D6-9AB6-0003934516A8@plaidworks.com>
References: <D4C916D4-B25E-11D6-9AB6-0003934516A8@plaidworks.com>

On Sat, 17 Aug 2002 20:59:02 -0700 
Chuq Von Rospach <chuqui@plaidworks.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, August 17, 2002, at 08:33 PM, J C Lawrence wrote:

>> If/when VA folds or pulls most/all the support for SF the cumulative
>> effect on the hosted projects and mailing lists will not be small.

> I've actually heard strong alternative views. Yes, SourceForge is a
> strong central location for all of this, but almost all significant
> projects hosted by SF also have some non-local hosting place as
> well. A loss of SourceForge would create chaos, but most projects
> would move forward after they could tie themselves back together.

Yeah, that's why I wrote, "not small", versus things like the "global
disaster", I've gotten elsewhere,

> I thought you were headed in a different direction. I'm actually
> amazed you didn't bring it up. What if Google sets all of that up for
> lists and runs it for a year or two, and life is wonderful -- and then
> Google gets bought by AOL/Time-Warner? or some other mega-group? And
> they change the privacy and usage rules?

I kinda figured that was covered by the "not immune to external forces",
especially given the previous poster's reference to large companies
changing due to business model changes and acquisitions.

> Sites shutting down we can handle. Becoming dependent on a site that
> goes through a, well, reorganization is my big worry.

Agreed, but I'll quietly note that should Google fry, it holds the only
consolidated Usenet archive on the planet.

-- 
J C Lawrence                
---------(*)                Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. 
claw@kanga.nu               He lived as a devil, eh?		  
http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/  Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live.




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