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Subject: Re: The gmane issue
From: Thomas Gramstad <thomas @ ifi . uio . no>
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 17:52:06 +0200 (MEST)
To: JC Dill <inet-list @ vo . cnchost . com>
Cc: List Managers <List-Managers @ greatcircle . com>
In-reply-to: <5.0.0.25.2.20020815161849.03eac910@pop3.vo.cnchost.com>
Reply-to: Thomas Gramstad <thomas @ ifi . uio . no>

On Fri, 16 Aug 2002, JC Dill wrote:

> I just had the following discussion with someone who discovered
> his list was added to gmane without his permission.  The
> following quote segment several emails into our discussion has
> text from me, him, and my reply:

[...]

>>>> Would you support an RFC that addresses mirroring of mailing
>>>> lists and specifies a listname-mirrors.txt file that can be
>>>> obtained from the list server and which tells the
>>>> mirror-to-be what the mirroring policy is for the list in
>>>> question?

>>> Would I support it? Yes. Will I write it? No.

>> I wasn't asking you to write it.  I just think it would be an
>> acceptable solution, and wanted your input.  I'll toss it back
>> to the listmanagers list and see what they say.  :-)

> So, my question to list-managers: Do you support the suggestion
> that list managers/owners have some responsibility (ala
> robots.txt) for telling those who wish to mirror or archive the
> list what the list rules are?

> If so, do you support the idea of this file being made available 1, 2, or
> all 3 of the following ways:
>
> A)  As a separate file that can be requested from the list server
>     (like an info file) via email;
> B)  A file to be found on the list server's website (like robots.txt)
>     if there is a website; and
> C)  Included in the welcome message.

I support it in all 3 ways at the same time (redundancy is often a good
thing, and certainly in this case).

I don't volunteer to write the RFC, but I volunteer to proofread and
comment on it.  Or, how about using this list as a forum to produce
and refine it.

One thing that should be discussed (on this list and perhaps in the
RFC), is the default setting in the listservers.  Since 95 % of
today's list owners never deviate from default settings, the
default settings will have a profound effect on how this will work.

Thomas Gramstad
thomas@ifi.uio.no




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